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Grex Micros Item 164: Mac Classic and Modem Questions!
Entered by olddraco on Sun Jun 8 16:00:48 UTC 1997:

I just obtained at a yard sale, a very nice looking and operational Mac
Classic. Its got system 6, 2+Meg memory and a 40 Meg HD. Came with MS Word
5.0 . My question is..does anyone have a modem for same laying around that
won't be expensive? What is the upper baud rate modem that this Classic
can use? What do I need to try to find?
Also where is the best place to look for shareware/software? :-)

28 responses total.



#1 of 28 by n8nxf on Mon Jun 9 13:47:29 1997:

I've used 14.4K baud modems with my Plus and 33.6K baud intermal in a
PB-160.  I suspect that your Clasic will work with them too.  Just
be carefull of the cable you use between your CPU and the modem!  The
serial port on your Clasic has hardware handshaking but many of the
cables you can buy don't support it!?  Be sure you get a cable that
does full hardware handshaking.
 
If your CPU has less than 6M of RAM, don't expect to surf the web.
(My SE/30 does just fine with 8, however.)


#2 of 28 by omni on Mon Jun 9 20:05:40 1997:

  MIT has a good archive, as does UM. It depends on what you are looking for,
Mel. 


#3 of 28 by olddraco on Wed Jun 11 00:50:19 1997:

Just has 2 meg right now. I heard from the woman that previously owned it
and it was obtained legally :-) its mine to play with! I may spend for
a used 14.4 <cheap> and maybe bring the ram up depending on cost..but I 
just want a way to get a few things shareware from the net :-) I have
my 486dx33 to surf the net with at 28.8 ;-)


#4 of 28 by rcurl on Wed Jun 11 05:17:34 1997:

try mirrors.aol.com in the directory pub/mac   That's the free/share-ware
MacMecca.


#5 of 28 by olddraco on Thu Jun 12 00:28:41 1997:

Well I stopped by mac exchange and got a LineLink 144e that came with a cable
and the salesperson gave me zterm which she said was shareware..
and when I try to open the program the screen goes haywire and a wine comes
out of the speaker...so I figure something isn't right memory or display
wise..but don't know for sure...sigh!


#6 of 28 by rcurl on Thu Jun 12 05:36:52 1997:

But that wine sure is something!  :)


#7 of 28 by omni on Thu Jun 12 06:26:09 1997:

 Hmmm. Zterm should work on most any Mac. I have used it on a 512ke, and I
had no problems. You probably have a problem with your Mac.



#8 of 28 by n8nxf on Thu Jun 12 11:16:47 1997:

Could be that your copy of Zterm is corrupt.  I've run it on everything
form a 512 to a PB-160.


#9 of 28 by rcurl on Fri Jun 13 07:01:01 1997:

And I've run it on a PB-145B and a PowerMac.


#10 of 28 by scott on Wed Jun 9 17:18:13 1999:

Well, no perfect item for it, but on the way to work today I found a Mac Plus
by the curb.  No keyboard or mouse, but it did power up and show the "disk
with a ?" icon.  Wow, if I'd found this 15 years ago... it would be worth
something.

Anyway, looks like a fun toy to get it going again.  I think I can borrow a
keyboard and mouse for testing, but I may need a system disk.


#11 of 28 by kentn on Wed Jun 9 23:50:27 1999:

Kiwanis might have a keyboard and mouse they'd deal with you on...
and even a system disk, maybe...


#12 of 28 by omni on Thu Jun 10 07:18:31 1999:

  What system do you need scott? I can make you one.

  I have 4.2, 6.0.8, 7.0.1 and 7.1 although 7.1 won't fit on an 800K
disk. I even have a spare keybard that you can have.

   You'll need to come pick it up, though.


#13 of 28 by n8nxf on Thu Jun 10 10:12:28 1999:

When they have them, Property Disposition has them for $1 each.  They also
sell the Plus CPUs for $1.


#14 of 28 by scott on Thu Jun 10 17:06:22 1999:

I have borrowed a system disk and a keyboard so far.  I'll probably go to PD
or Kiwanis for a mouse... the software I do have has absolutely no way to do
anything without a mouse.  This is a (apparently) 4MB Mac Plus.  It even had
a UM sticker on the side...


#15 of 28 by scott on Thu Jun 10 19:28:38 1999:

Actually, Jim, if you could assemble a system disk that would be cool.  I
actually like the older stuff, since it was rather simple and elegant.  Maybe
an older version, possibly bundled with some comm and perhaps word software?
A couple years ago I was idly looking around for a classic olde Mac just
because I thought the original stuff looked so nice.

(and if I'd found this 15 years ago, it would have been impressive as the Mac
Plus didn't come out until about 12 years ago)


#16 of 28 by omni on Fri Jun 11 06:01:31 1999:

  Ok Do you want System 4.2, or 6.0.8?

 I have Zterm 1.01 as my latest Mac comm program
 I also have MacWrite, which is o dog, but you can have it.

 You need a mouse with a Mac. No getting around that.


#17 of 28 by n8nxf on Fri Jun 11 10:47:40 1999:

Give him 4.2 as there is no room on a 800K floppy for 6.0.8 and an
application, is there?  The Plus is a lot more fun with an external
SCSI HD.


#18 of 28 by scott on Fri Jun 11 17:15:29 1999:

I want the olde system, so 4.2.  I'm not planning on doing serious work with
this... :)


#19 of 28 by scott on Tue Jun 22 02:03:24 1999:

Hmm... no mice of the old style at Dispo.  I suspect they might be kind of
rare.  I wonder if some kind of adapter could be used to hack in a serial
mouse?  How did the original Mac mice interface?

So no rush on a disk, Omni.  This may be a non-project.


#20 of 28 by omni on Tue Jun 22 06:13:00 1999:

   The old interface was a DB-9. I don't think you can use a serial mouse,
Mac mice are unique. Try Computer Medic on State, I bought my last one there
for $35 a few yrs ago. I'll keep the disk next to the SE.


#21 of 28 by n8nxf on Tue Jun 22 11:24:05 1999:

I saw a Plus mouse at PD last week for $1.  I'll grab one the next time
I see one.  (I'm making weekly visits out there looking for file cabinets.)


#22 of 28 by scott on Tue Jun 22 17:39:01 1999:

Thanks, guys.  I dug thru a few boxes and hampers at PD, but only found a few
odd ADB mice.


#23 of 28 by drew on Tue Jun 22 21:29:42 1999:

Re #21:
    What time of week do you usually goto PD?


#24 of 28 by n8nxf on Wed Jun 23 10:34:11 1999:

Whenever I have the time and the mood strikes me.  I was there yesterday
right at opening time but no file cabinets (or obvious Plus mice.)


#25 of 28 by scott on Sat Jul 10 15:08:19 1999:

Mouse has been obtained.  Kiwanis had both a mouse and a trackball!  So now
I need a keyboard and a system disk.  


#26 of 28 by omni on Sun Jul 11 06:37:37 1999:

  I have both. Send me some e-mail.


#27 of 28 by scott on Tue Jul 13 19:04:06 1999:

Wow, I have a system disk now, too.  Still need a kbd.
(4.2, apparently).


#28 of 28 by rcurl on Thu Jun 2 01:09:54 2005:

I'm using MacSFTP Classic on an iMac running Mac OS 9.2. This is a licensed
product. I would like to change its passphrase. However I can't find the
current passphrase in the application or preference files, in order to edit
it. Probably, I don't have the utility for editing such things. What do I need
to do this? 

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