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I'm wondering. Are those tiny little CPU fans really necessary? Do we really need one more mechanical, motor driven, device to go bad in these elcheap-o clone systems? From my observation these fans only add noise, and more noise when their journal bearings wear out. They pack dust into the fins of the undersized heatsinks they are mounted on. Then, to top it off, many don't use a thermal coupling material/grease between the CPU and heatsink/fan assembly! One system I looked at had the stores ID sticker still adhered to the CPU, reducing the thermal coupling coefficient between CPU and heatsink even further. On a 486Dx/33 system I have I put a finned heatsink on the CPU that's about the size of a heatsink/CPU combination. It runs warm, but not hot, to the touch and I don't have the additional noise. Any other forced cooled CPU observations out there?
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The Spec for a DX 33 never even mentioned needing a heatsink. a DX 50 is required to have sink and fan. Many things beyond that use 3.3 volt instead of 5 volt, so they dissipate less energy at the same clock speed. That is how a Pentium 60 or 66 can run with a huge heat sink and no fan. Faster than that and you need a fan. The new ones I work with at 166 with generous coating of heat sink compound have a warm to the touch sink even while the fan is running (not just like new, but *really* new ;) ). (I use a sink and fan on my DX2 66, and I did the same on my DX 33. That way I don't feel guilty about running my system in 80 degree ambient. And I also have a finned sink on the S3 chip on my video accelerator since it was too hot to touch before the addition.)
My 486DX2-80 runs fine (and relatively cool--you can touch it) without the fan. It does have a rather monstrous heat sink, though. I suppose some of the heat problems relate to the type of air flow through case in which the CPU is mounted, the CPU's location in relation to other forced air flow through the case, air flow blockages near the CPU, etc. I've got a Pentium 150 at work, and I believe it has a CPU fan, though that is expected.
I trust that fans really are a necessity for reliable operation of some of the faster chips. Maybe I'm being gullible, but the last several 586 motherboards I've bought have had fans on them anyway, so I'd just as use them.
The DX2 80 would be a 3.3 volt chip. The analysis of power consuption gets pretty conplex when you cahnge a chip that much. Assuming nothing but voltage changes then you get 2/3 as much power used in a 3.3 volt. But with lower voltage total charge transport goes way down, so current also drops off. They use a lot less power. Airflow in the case makes a big difference, though. There is a dual Pentium Pro 200 that uses no CPU fans. It has a duct that directs flow from a case fan directly over the chips.
For what it's worth, I know of a case where someone was careless and let a cable get in the way of a fan's turning. The system died fairly quickly. (This wasn't me, and was a while back, so I'm not sure if it was a 486 or a pentium. It's also certainly possible, for all I know, that the non- turning fan (and the cable, maybe) blocked enough airflow from the power supply fan to make a difference.)
The 486DX/33 capable mother board I have has a plug right next to the CPU for a fan. Since it's a 5v board with a 33MHz max clock speed, I assumed a fan was at least recommended. This HP Vectra 486DX33N has a small fan blowing on the CPU but no heatsink. You can't put put your finger on the center of the CPU and count to ten without getting an urge to pull it off. I also have a used P60 board and I found that the heatsink was loaded with dust, making it pretty ineffective. I used a compressor to blow out dust in such situations but a clean paintbrush also woks pretty well. (If you blow the dust out of a PC that's been around for a while, do it outside or you might be sorry.)
AFAIK, my 486DX2-80 chip is 5V since that's what my MB is (and there is no jumper to select voltage that I can find). I try to be careful about cable placement when putting the cover back on the case. I've even tied them out of the way just to insure good air flow. Even allowing for the fact I have a full-size AT case, it's easy to drop a ribbon cable over the CPU chip if you aren't careful. Seems to me I've seen cases advertised that had dual fans. I suppose you load a full tower up with several hard disks and a Pentium chip, and you need all the air flow you can get. Not personally at that point, yet, though.
You might want to be careful using a compressor to clean out a PC, since the pressure can be high enough to blow chips out of their sockets.
There were a few assorted faster 486 chips that were 5 volt. Pretty uncommon. Chips tend to derate ate 150 C. If the outside of the package is more than slightly warm I would increase cooling somehow. Make it last longer.
My 386-33 is often somewhat cool to the touch. It doesn't have a heat sinnk, and fairly obviously doesn't need one. My 486DX2-66 has a heat sink that gets somewhat warm, but probably not quite to the point of needing a fan. It works fine. Pentiums I've seen where the fan has stopped have had problems.
When I design electronic equipment that requires a fan, I'm always sure to put a finger guard on both sides of the fan. One to keep fingers out and one on the other side to keep wires out. I use the rule of thumb a Willowrun Labs engineer told me about. If you can't put your finger on a solid state component and cout to ten, it's too hot!
I would agree with that rule. I've used it before. Some of the faster pentiums get hot so quickly that with your finger on it you turn it on and you can't wait till 10.
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