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Grex Language Item 87: The Etymology Item
Entered by coyote on Sun Jun 1 03:11:14 UTC 1997:

Etymology is an important part in the study of languages, and I personally
think that it's quite interesting, and that this conference should have an
item devoted to it.  It grants new insights into the meanings of certain
words, and helps immensly in word association.  Oftentimes I can discern the
meaning of a word just by recognizing some of its roots!  Anyways, this item
is for the discussion of etymology, the etymology of different words, and
stuff like that.  To start us off, I though I'd give a brief history of the
word 'language' since that's what this is all about (I gleaned this
information simply from the dictionary, just fleshed out the abbreviations.):

The word 'language' in Modern English was the same in Middle English, with
        no change in meaning.
It's derives from the Old French word 'langage', which is in turn derived from
        'langue', meaning tongue.
'Langue' derives from the classical Latin word 'lingua' meaning tongue,
        language, or altered.
Through association with the Latin 'lingere', to lick, it's been traced back
        to the Old Latin 'dingua', and from this the etymologists have guessed
        that the Indo-European root word is something like 'dnghwa' (don't ask
        me how to pernounce that).

Interesting stuff, if you feel like taking the time to go through it. 
Personally, language probably isn't one of the words whose root is going to
stick with me to help discern other words, but, hey, who knows?

22 responses total.



#1 of 22 by albaugh on Mon Jun 2 18:17:50 1997:

Just don't confuse "etymology" with "entomology" !  :-)
(Which everyone knows is the study of "ents" [see J.R.R. Tolkein] ;-)


#2 of 22 by srw on Sat Jun 14 06:51:16 1997:

Hee hee. Entology is the study of ent. Entomology is insects, but you knew
that. Well that is a word I have known for a long time, but since this is the
etymology item, I'll say what I know about its origin.

-ology is not latin, but Greek. It means "the study of ..."
entomo must mean insects, but I do not know of any other word constructed from
that root.


#3 of 22 by albaugh on Mon Jun 16 14:26:58 1997:

You mean there's no such thing as an infestation of entoms?  ;-)


#4 of 22 by kami on Mon Jun 16 17:56:43 1997:

dunno, howabout an afestation of atoms?


#5 of 22 by albaugh on Tue Jun 17 14:32:58 1997:

And then there's the study of ap's...  ;-)


#6 of 22 by kami on Tue Jun 17 16:29:53 1997:

ap-ology?


#7 of 22 by albaugh on Wed Jun 18 16:21:10 1997:

And the study of the


#8 of 22 by kami on Thu Jun 19 01:24:37 1997:

nullology?  nihilism? <g>


#9 of 22 by albaugh on Thu Jun 19 18:32:25 1997:

the-ology  ;-)


#10 of 22 by kami on Thu Jun 19 19:05:17 1997:

oh, of course. You believe in THE.  As opposed to IT.  Got it. <g>


#11 of 22 by srw on Sun Jun 22 06:41:58 1997:

So we find the etymology item reduced to puns. 
Where does the word "pun" come from?


#12 of 22 by albaugh on Mon Jun 23 18:12:35 1997:

From the Merriam-WWWebster Dictionary:

Main Entry: 1pun
Pronunciation: 'p&n
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from Italian puntiglio fine point, quibble -- more at
PUNCTILIO
Date: 1662
:the usually humorous use of a word in such a way as to suggest two or more
of its meanings or the meaning of another word similar in sound

Main Entry: punc-til-io
Pronunciation: "p&[ng]k-'ti-lE-"O
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -i-os
Etymology: Italian & Spanish; Italian puntiglio point of honor, scruple, 
 from Spanish puntillo, from diminutive of punto point, from Latin punctum
Date: 1596
1 : a minute detail of conduct in a ceremony or in observance of a code
2 : careful observance of forms (as in social conduct) 


#13 of 22 by srw on Fri Jul 4 19:53:48 1997:

thanks


#14 of 22 by srw on Fri Jul 4 19:54:32 1997:

I made a note of the URL for that source...

http://www.m-w.com/netdict.htm


#15 of 22 by bi974 on Fri Aug 29 01:50:30 1997:

hi everyone .... just i wanna say  (  Como estan ? )




#16 of 22 by kami on Fri Aug 29 04:05:27 1997:

Casi bien, gracias, un poco cansada.  Y usted?


#17 of 22 by bradmand on Tue Dec 15 16:19:49 1998:

hm...looks like this item is dead! hey how about a game like this: you give
out a word and others get a chance to figure out the root and make another
word from that root?


#18 of 22 by happyboy on Wed Dec 16 02:19:01 1998:

crocodile


#19 of 22 by albaugh on Wed Dec 16 07:01:41 1998:

My initial parsing uncovered something similar to "crock o' s**t"  :-)


#20 of 22 by bradmand on Wed Dec 16 17:11:12 1998:

My guess is 'croco**'!


#21 of 22 by coyote on Thu Dec 17 23:14:23 1998:

krokodilos? (Greek for lizard)


#22 of 22 by happyboy on Mon Dec 21 01:29:07 1998:

egyptian...pebble worm.

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