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Grex Language Item 84: English as a Second Language [linked]
Entered by e4808mc on Sun Apr 20 16:07:51 UTC 1997:

Welcome to Grex.  There are a lot of ways you can use our system, and we are
happy to help people who want to practice written English.  Try typing
"join language" at an Ok: prompt to find the conference where lots of
languages are discussed.  If yours isn't there add your welcome to this
item.  

To get started, I'll ask Grexers to enter a welcome in whatever language
they are fluent in.  

69 responses total.



#1 of 69 by albaugh on Sun Apr 20 17:29:44 1997:

Kumusta po kayo?  (formal "how are you?" greeting in Tagalog (Philippines))


#2 of 69 by adania on Mon Apr 21 00:17:29 1997:

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#3 of 69 by adania on Mon Apr 21 00:19:23 1997:

Baruch haBah. (welcome in Hebrew)


#4 of 69 by albaugh on Tue Apr 22 02:39:01 1997:

I guess that "beinvenue" is the French word for "welcome".  Especially for
someone you knew, I guess "Bonjour!  Comment allez-vous?" would be more
commone, as in "Hello! (Good day!)  How are you? (How do you go?)"


#5 of 69 by kami on Fri Apr 25 01:03:53 1997:

Failte Romhat!  (you're most welcome, in Irish)
Hola, que tal? (casual Spanish- hello, what's up?)


#6 of 69 by kaplan on Sun May 4 23:53:59 1997:

This item has now been linked from the Language conference to the Intro
conference.

Welcome!


#7 of 69 by rain on Mon May 5 09:21:08 1997:

hai

I




hello
hai aggy this is arthi


#8 of 69 by otaking on Mon May 5 12:03:59 1997:

Mushi-mushi (Japanese "Hello" for the telephone)


#9 of 69 by animesh on Thu May 8 10:09:56 1997:

 hi i am animesh firast intro duce your self


#10 of 69 by racherla on Fri May 9 18:14:48 1997:

Hi Aarthi Niranjan Iam glad to receive hai from you , Accept my hai and best
wishes also. 


#11 of 69 by sripv on Sat May 10 04:46:33 1997:

Namaskar (Indian greeting)


#12 of 69 by baptun on Sat May 10 18:03:57 1997:

Namaskar Sridhar
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#13 of 69 by reetish on Mon May 12 09:49:43 1997:

kaise hai app ?


#14 of 69 by e4808mc on Tue May 13 21:03:43 1997:

welcome to grex baptun.  It really does get easier


#15 of 69 by shammu on Sun May 18 10:38:53 1997:

Nulvaravu . (It means WELCOME in TAMIL Language ).
Tamil Language is one of the Regional Languages of INDIA.


#16 of 69 by albaugh on Mon May 19 15:45:02 1997:

I learned that "SOWkeeama" was a/the Tamil greeting.  How do these differ?


#17 of 69 by atticus on Thu May 22 02:28:08 1997:

Enthundu visesham? ("How are you in Malayalam, a language spoken in Kerala,
India)


#18 of 69 by srw on Sun May 25 16:25:03 1997:

I have heard the "namaskar"  greeting before. Is that Hindi?

I have been told that there are about 26 languages in India. I know of 
the names of only a few. 

Hindi - the official language of the Government in New Delhi, and the 
regional language around that city.

Tamil - spoken in the Tamil Nadu state, I think including the city of 
Madras.

Malayalam (I just learned this) - but I do not know where Eerala is.

There are a lot of grexers from Bangalore, Mumbai, and Calicut. I think 
each one has a different regiuonal language but I do not know what they 
are.


#19 of 69 by atticus on Mon May 26 16:03:59 1997:

Some of the languages spoken India are Malayalam, Tamil, Gujarati, Kashmiri,
Hindi, Kannada, Telugu, Oriya, Marathi, Bengali, Naga, Manipuri etc.

To answer Steve's query: Kerala (Steve, please note the spelling ;-)) is a
tiny state arranged along the western coast of India at its southern tip. The
state is known for its natural beauty -- forests, backwaters, and
all-pervading greenery -- and its total literacy. Malayalam is the language
spoken; Kerala is called "Keralam" in Malayalam :-)


#20 of 69 by atticus on Sun Jun 1 18:31:50 1997:

re Kevin's #16: 'Nalvaravu' = Nal (good) + Varavu (Arrival) => Welcome
                 'Sowkyam'  = Well-being 
                  'Sowkyama?' =~ How are you?


#21 of 69 by roshang on Tue Jun 3 09:57:48 1997:

'Kay mhanta?'=how are you?'<from Adinath>
'Kaay chaalal aahe?'=what's going on?'<IN Marathi (maharashtra India)


#22 of 69 by shammu on Fri Jun 6 13:42:58 1997:

Explanations given by atticus is excellent.
Most of the languages spoken in Northern India are so much similar to Hindhi
..
And Southern Indian Languages are completely Different from each other with
very exceptions.


Namaskar in Hindi is equivalent to Vanakam in Tamil



#23 of 69 by kami on Tue Jun 10 02:44:41 1997:

Wow!  That *is* different.  Do you know the derivations of the two greetings?
That is, where they came from or what their literal meaning would be if you
disected the words?


#24 of 69 by shammu on Fri Jun 13 04:50:30 1997:

Tamil Originated from travidians (They had come down from North).
There is a big argument which lanuage originated from which.
Frankly speaking I dont know which came out first.
As I said earlier there a are quite a few similarities in southern languages
,
Few say Tamil originated from Telgu and viceversa.

But iam not sure of it.

Literal Meaning of Vanakam is 
    It means "HELLO".


#25 of 69 by aunt on Fri Jun 13 09:37:06 1997:

Hai, This is Venu Gopal from Bombay, India


#26 of 69 by srw on Sat Jun 14 06:46:06 1997:

Thanks for the explanation, atticus. I have heard of Kerala, but I couldn't
guess it with the first letter wrong.

Hi, Rahul. I have noticed that many people from India use this spelling "hai",
but in the US, UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, and other English speaking countries,
I have never seen it spelled that way. I think it is a kind of Indian slang
use, like U and Ur, for which we always spell out as you and your.


#27 of 69 by atticus on Sat Jun 14 12:03:24 1997:

Thanks == "nandi" (nun-di) in Malayalam :)



#28 of 69 by aunt on Tue Jun 17 13:06:08 1997:

In India [D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D
Hi, Catriona , most of the indians usu "Hai" only


#29 of 69 by jayu on Thu Jun 19 05:09:37 1997:

Nanna hesaru Jayadev (meaning My name is Jayadev ,this is Kannada language),
one of the Southern Indian languages.Bye Eveybody.


#30 of 69 by kami on Thu Jun 19 19:04:47 1997:

Cool!  Thanks.


#31 of 69 by kens on Tue Jun 24 06:29:05 1997:

HI GOOD DAY!!.


#32 of 69 by manojb on Wed Jun 25 07:31:38 1997:

Ellaa koottukarkkum namaskaram. Ente peru Manoj.  Ee grex kudumbathil
angamakan kazhinjathil eniku valre santhoshamundu.Vida!
( Hello friends!  My name is Manoj.  I am very happy to be part of this grex
family.  Good-bye!)
(malayalam)


#33 of 69 by atticus on Wed Jun 25 14:30:07 1997:

(swaagatham, manoj) welcome, manoj :-)


#34 of 69 by amhead on Wed Jun 25 15:28:01 1997:

hello how are you?

 


#35 of 69 by atticus on Wed Jun 25 17:48:04 1997:

hi andrea! welcome to grex!!


#36 of 69 by b52 on Wed Jul 2 20:55:09 1997:

Ref: #26 BY STEVE
Hi, Steve! I agree With you on that comment. But not with #28 By Rahul.
This item is the first place where I saw Hai instead of Hi.
And about using "u" and "ur" etc.  It's not done on paper or when you are 
writing formally to someone. Actually I have noticed it only on the party_
channels or talk etc.
Maybe the guys want to convey there ideas faster than their hands can type!!
I have caught myself doing it on party_ or talks.
Bye.


#37 of 69 by srw on Fri Jul 4 19:52:27 1997:

As a staff member, I assure you that we get U and UR a lot from Indian 
users in e-mail. I guess e-mail is thought of as non-written 
communications by many Indians. At first it was a bit distracting. It 
was never confusing, though. It is obviously a local slang, but it seems 
to apply to a large locality, the entire subcontinent. I have never seen 
it coming from anywhere but India.

Another English expression that only seems to originate from India is 
"do the needful." While "needful" is listed in the dictionary as a noun, 
I have never heard it used that way in the US. The equivalent expression 
in American English is "do what is necessary."


#38 of 69 by rcurl on Sat Jul 5 18:04:27 1997:

It is an English English expression.


#39 of 69 by hrnair on Sun Jul 6 02:03:45 1997:

Namaskaram Andy (It means due respect in Telegu)


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