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Grex Language Item 107: puerile dolts [linked]
Entered by chamberl on Fri Jul 14 17:47:58 UTC 2000:

Wasn't it being somewhat redundant when Rane Curl used the phrase 
"puerile dolt"?  It would be hard to be a dolt without being puerile.

                        Pronunciation: 'pyu(-&)r-&l, -"Il
                        Function: adjective
                        Etymology: French or Latin; French pu\151ril, 
                          from Latin puerilis, from puer boy, child;
                          akin to Sanskrit putra son, child and perhaps to

                          Greek pais boy, child -- more at FEW
                        Date: 1661
                        1 : JUVENILE
                        2 : CHILDISH, SILLY <puerile remarks>
                        - pu\067er\067ile\067ly /-&(l)-lE, -"Il-lE/ adverb
                        - pu\067er\067il\067i\067ty /"pyu(-&)r-'i-l&-tE/ noun
 
 
 
                        Main Entry: dolt
                        Pronunciation: 'dOlt
                        Function: noun
                        Etymology: probably akin to Old English dol foolish
                        Date: 1553
                        : a stupid person
                        - dolt\067ish /'dOl-tish/ adjective
                        - dolt\067ish\067ly adverb
                        - dolt\067ish\067ness noun 
 
 
Synonyms he could have used are listed below: 
 
 
puerile:   CHILDISH, babyish, immature, infantile, infantine, prekindergarten

dolt:    DUNCE, boob, booby, chump, dolthead, fathead, goof, goon, lunkhead,
oaf~

39 responses total.



#1 of 39 by jazz on Fri Jul 14 17:49:33 2000:

        A fool isn't necessary childish.


#2 of 39 by carla on Fri Jul 14 18:06:56 2000:

prekindergarten boob.


#3 of 39 by gypsi on Fri Jul 14 18:27:24 2000:

I don't think it's redundant at all.  A dolt isn't necessarily puerile.


#4 of 39 by fitz on Fri Jul 14 18:28:09 2000:

#1 hits the mark:  I've been an *old* fool for quite some time.  I've never
been called an old *dolt*, but my life will certainly be enriched thereafter.


#5 of 39 by jiffer on Fri Jul 14 20:01:08 2000:

I officially knight chamberl the ill-advised-dictionary-bitch. 

That is nice that you can use a dictionary chamberl, but please be aware that
some words don't mean *exactly* the same thing...Would you care to borrow my
St. Martin's Handbook?


#6 of 39 by chamberl on Sat Jul 15 03:09:59 2000:

Is it in the field?


#7 of 39 by sno on Sat Jul 15 13:38:58 2000:

This response has been erased.



#8 of 39 by sno on Sat Jul 15 13:40:41 2000:

Curious if the topic hits the author too close to home.



#9 of 39 by willard on Sat Jul 15 14:27:34 2000:

#7 read...

,C /bbs/agora34 item 315 resp 7 rflg 3 date Jul 15 09:40:11 2000 user
sno,28219
Stephen Opal
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,U28219,sno
,AStephen Opal
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Something comes to mind like pot calling kettle or somesuch.
,E


#10 of 39 by goose on Sat Jul 15 18:31:41 2000:

Thank you Willard for pointing out the stupidity of the current censor
policy.


#11 of 39 by carla on Sat Jul 15 19:26:57 2000:

hah


#12 of 39 by bdh3 on Sun Jul 16 07:43:58 2000:

Perhaps the current 'censor policy' is an attempt
to among other things be merely polite instead of
re-writing history.


#13 of 39 by sno on Sun Jul 16 12:34:03 2000:

it was not my intention to insult md, as the censored comment is
inappropriately directed and so censored.  My followup comment was
my intended remark, more directly aimed and so not censored.

so fuck off willard.  go back to M-Net with such antics.



#14 of 39 by sno on Sun Jul 16 12:51:53 2000:

Actually what I mean to say.

Thank you so much willard for pointing out my personal error for
public scrutiny.  It appears with vital watchdogs like you no one
can go on without their public and correctable mistakes reproduced 
for point making and review.

It is good to know that you have appointed yourself the individual
guardian of justice, not permitting errors of judgement or perception
to go relatively unnoticed or unreviewed.  Choosing instead to 
quickly thrust back into public light that which most people could
care less about, and not just permit revew, but to FORCE review
by the readers at large, many of whom could have easily gone on
with their life without the knowledge of my error in words.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Now, my most sincere hope is that you must face each and every
embarassing error you have made in your life when you least desire
it, and in a most public way.  That would be justice, don't you think?



#15 of 39 by jerryr on Sun Jul 16 13:14:26 2000:

i have no idea, and i am guessing here (honestly) that willard posted that
because grex logs censored responses for anyone who cares to to read.  he
prolly (another guess) sees no difference between posting it for all to see
and having it available in a log.


#16 of 39 by willard on Sun Jul 16 14:02:56 2000:

#14: Actually, I wasn't even paying attention to this thread.  I saw
     an expurgated response, retrieved it from the censored file, and
     posted it.  I intended no personal harm, just wanted to point out
     how senseless it is to even offer a scribble command if all it
     does is compile everyone's "wish I could take that back" remarks
     into one concise, easy to read collection of "oops"es.

     So from now on, I encourage someone (not necessarily always me)
     to do just this.  It won't be too long before voting no on
     closing that file has bitten EVERYONE in the ass.   And at the
     very least, it'll make for some fun.  :-D


#17 of 39 by slynne on Sun Jul 16 14:08:33 2000:

Normally willard, I disapprove of your antics but I have to say that 
grex walked right into this one. *snort*


#18 of 39 by scott on Sun Jul 16 14:23:12 2000:

Re: 16:  Well, your unblemished record of perfect netiquette will surely sway
people to your cause.    ;)


#19 of 39 by chamberl on Sun Jul 16 17:47:55 2000:

Isn't there a way to destroy them more completely??


#20 of 39 by gelinas on Mon Jul 17 00:46:43 2000:

It is my understanding that both picospan and yapp write 'scribbled'
responses to a log file.  On M-NET that file is closed; it can be written
to but not read.  On grex, the file is open: it can be written to and
read by anoyone.

The log file here is permitted such that only cfadm (or a program running
as cfadm) can write to it.  I assume that the 'write' permission on M-NET
is similar.


#21 of 39 by rcurl on Mon Jul 17 05:10:52 2000:

Anyone posting the scribbled responses of others will just make themselves
look a puerile dolt. What fun or value is there in that? If others
want to read the file, they can do it themselves, and don't need help.
For me, you will find my scribbled respones aren't worth the time to
repeat them - that's why they are scribbled.


#22 of 39 by rcurl on Mon Jul 17 05:29:13 2000:

Summer 200 agora 315 - puerile dolts - has been linked to language 107.


#23 of 39 by albaugh on Mon Jul 17 17:50:17 2000:

For what purpose was this link done?  To "discuss" the definition of two
measely words?


#24 of 39 by rcurl on Mon Jul 17 21:53:49 2000:

The subject concerned language use, hence the linkage. If you want
to discuss any language uses, you would be welcome - indeed thanked -
to enter a relevant item in the language cf.


#25 of 39 by albaugh on Mon Jul 17 22:34:46 2000:

I have, on occasion, thank you.  But this item's contents will constitute
nothing more than a curious and unpleasant spillage on the language
conference's carpet.


#26 of 39 by davel on Mon Jul 17 23:58:56 2000:

heh


#27 of 39 by twinkie on Tue Jul 18 03:01:18 2000:

Well, since this is linked to the Language conference, I'd like to take this
opportunity to say....wait for it....Eat a bag of shitdicks!



#28 of 39 by rcurl on Tue Jul 18 06:35:19 2000:

Thank you for the contribution, which I presume represents the epitomy of
your intelligence. 


#29 of 39 by twinkie on Tue Jul 18 10:50:33 2000:

Mom! Rane called me a dummy!

Shouldn't you be prattling about puerile doltery?



#30 of 39 by md on Tue Jul 18 14:34:10 2000:

Is "epitomy" the epitome of Rane's intelligence?


#31 of 39 by rcurl on Tue Jul 18 15:58:50 2000:

"epitomy" is the excision of an epit, dummy. 


#32 of 39 by lelande on Tue Jul 18 21:10:05 2000:

aka, engineering process improvement team.
(teradyne)


#33 of 39 by kami on Wed Jul 19 03:39:32 2000:

Oh! Rane, you beat me to it. Oh well.


#34 of 39 by orinoco on Thu Jul 20 03:04:35 2000:

Isn't it "epitome," says the guy reading this from the language conference.


#35 of 39 by rcurl on Thu Jul 20 05:13:30 2000:

Go back five squares.


#36 of 39 by albaugh on Mon Jul 24 23:31:45 2000:

epitome is like a poem to be read out-of-doors or soemthing...


#37 of 39 by cwb on Thu Aug 3 18:13:13 2000:

To return to the original topic, it is also the case that not all
children are fools.  Some children I know are much wiser than the
"grownups" they hang out with.  Goddess grant they don't get convinced
to buy into the removal of that wisdom.


#38 of 39 by mooncat on Thu Aug 3 18:56:17 2000:

Nah, they'll just use it for devious reasons. ;)


#39 of 39 by albaugh on Thu Aug 3 23:35:14 2000:

"Fool" is best left to describe only those that should know better.  There
are many things that it is not reasonable for kids yet to know.

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