This item is for questions, issues, computer questions, whatever, that 
aren't related to food. This way, you won't have to go to another 
conference [like agora or any of the computer related conferences] to
ask  specific questions/address concerns, then have to find your way
back here.

14 responses total.

Ok, this was started in part, by the item drift in the 'cheap eats' 
item. Sindi had said some stuff and then asked what item it was. I then 
asked--couldn't she scroll back a bit to see what the actual item is. 
She then talked about various computer program stuff that I don't know 
[or necessarily need to know] all the details-since I can't help with 
those things.   So, my next question is, Sindi, even though you can only
 scroll back about 25 lines or so [as I understand you saying], as grex 
goes from one item to the next, doesn't it tell you at any point what 
the item header is?  If not, how do you know what you're responding to 
or asking about?  [Or perhaps that's the reason there IS a lot of drift 
and unrelated comments in various items throughout the conferences.]  
Why wouldn't the various methods of reading the conferences here on grex
 allow you to do such a thing [as seeing what specific items are that 
you're reading]?  It seems like it should--or if not, perhaps finding 
one that does let you know...

What I'm not understanding is why Sindi is using backtalk instead of
bbs?

bbs is designed as a text-interface for the conferences.  A simple
telnet or ssh connection to Grex allows her to use the conference
software that was designed for exactly that purpose.

About the 'skipping it' [on starting a new item for drift]--

When I'm looking for something specific here in the food/kitchen 
conference, I want to be able to go to the appropriate item and reread 
it to see if my question has already been discussed. So I don't 
necessarily want to read through a bunch of unrelated stuff.  And if 
what I'm looking for isn't there, I'll then ask my question in the 
specific item but if there isn't an item for that topic, its time to 
create one.

I know I've been known to drift, too, so if anyone sees any of us here 
drifting, politely let us know to take the conversation elsewhere, where
 its more appropriate. Or create a new item, if needed.  There *have* 
been a lot of interesting spin-off discussions in our items and I've 
learned a lot from all of you--but its sometimes hard to go back and 
find what I need if its not in the item I'm looking for.  Especially 
since I'm really trying hard to get on track with cooking at home, not 
dining out as much, trying to eat healthier, I'm currently going through
 a lot of items here to get information... [and a lot of it, I'm copying
 over to a text file so I can read it off-line]..

So, as a FW in this conference, I'm trying to do better in keeping 
things on topic and on track. I may not always be successful, but I'll 
try my best.  I want us all to be able to learn from each other.  :-)

I'm co-opting this item to talk about canned broth vs. homemade.

And you can't stop me.  ;-)

cool.

or hot?

Hot.  I'm currently trying to find a good recipe for veggie broth.  I 
think I want to replace all of my other broths with that.

I start with roasted skins.

Roasted tomato skins, potato skins, carrot skins, onion skins, beet
skins (careful with the color on these).

Carmelized onions, low, slow, and nothing else added in a single layer
in a cast iron skillet.  

Add celery, fresh onion, herbs (I like parsley), a bit of lemon juice to
perk up the flavor.

Sometimes, if the final recipe warrants, I use a teaspoon of tomato
paste as well.  

denise, have you tried using the search features to find things in the
conferences you are looking for?

Typing h at the 'respond, .... quit' prompt gave me the header.
Where do I look for other keyboard commands?  I do type 'bbs' to get to the
conference, not backtalk.  I forget whether we are using picospan or fronttalk
now in bbs.

Sindi if you type "menu" at the system prompt, you will be given a
guided tour of how Grex works.  All of the information you are looking
for is there.

Keyboard commands that do something from bbs:
a - displays some response, don't understand
e - enter new item
f - find - how does this one work?
m - lists my mail
n - exit this item, next time it will be new
p - pass
q - quit
r or t - respond or type (same thing)
w - who is online

f might be helpful to Denise.

menu, z - picospan guide.  find "word" all from the OK prompt is supposed to
find all instances of a particular word (type that not "word").

It worked amazingly fast and showed me a list of all items in this conf with
'broth', listing which response they were in and the entire line of text

[phew, we're kinda back on track, thank you very much.  :-)  For the
time  being, at least!]

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