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Grex Kitchen Item 145: Not to be picky or anything...
Entered by mta on Fri Oct 10 22:11:31 UTC 1997:

...but have any of the fairwitnesses actually followed this conference 
in backtalk for any length of time?

Black on red is very "hot" on the eyes and hard to read -- at least on 
my terminal.



We now return you to your regularly scheduled Foodfest!

13 responses total.

#1 of 13 by valerie on Fri Oct 10 23:00:18 1997:

Good point.  I'll go play with it.  (The original idea was to have colors that
looked something like a red and white checked tablecloth in a restaurant. 
But the results didn't look remotely like that.)

#2 of 13 by omni on Sat Oct 11 06:58:44 1997:

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#3 of 13 by remmers on Sat Oct 11 12:20:54 1997:

As I've said before, I think that allowing fw's to set
foreground and background colors, without giving users a
convenient way to override them, was a design mistake. Reading
comfort is important to me, and fw's can't be expected to have
expertise in ergonomics. Pistachio *really* needs something
like Picospan's "set nosource".

I've taken to using Backtalk via the "vanilla" interface --
despite the absence of some pistachio features that I really do
like -- because of this problem.

#4 of 13 by valerie on Sat Oct 11 13:31:52 1997:

Um, I don't think Backtalk's authors read this conference.

#5 of 13 by valerie on Sat Oct 11 20:17:06 1997:

Oooga.  I set the conference colors on my old, 16 color, laptop 
computer.  I don't think I'd looked at them again since I got my new 
(many more color) computer.  I agree that the colors were not terribly
readable.  For now I've chosen the foodiest color on the option list:
cornsilk.

Backtalk isn't showing any images right now.  I think HVCN may be down.
I'll check that the button colors look okay once HVCN is up again.

#6 of 13 by valerie on Sat Oct 11 22:22:45 1997:

Interesting.  The most recent response in item 1 is a request for feedback
on this conference's Backtalk colors.  So clearly I realized when I installed
them that they might need some changes.

#7 of 13 by remmers on Mon Oct 13 10:47:11 1997:

Perhaps not, but you have a fast track to *one* of the authors,
n'est ce pas?  :)

#8 of 13 by valerie on Mon Oct 13 15:18:59 1997:

Well, he *is* here in this room right now, true.

#9 of 13 by remmers on Mon Oct 13 16:22:36 1997:

I've expressed my views on fw and user powers in the pistachio
interface elsewhere, so he's probably aware of them.

#10 of 13 by mta on Mon Oct 13 23:32:04 1997:

This much nicer, Valerie, Thanks!  (I hadn't used balktalk until after 
I'd forgotten your request for feedback.  Sorry.)

#11 of 13 by eeyore on Wed Oct 29 06:44:16 1997:

I didn't even realize that we *HAD* colors here!!!  (sigh) Gotta love
black-and-white.

#12 of 13 by remmers on Tue Nov 4 10:53:21 1997:

We have colors only if you access Grex via the web.

#13 of 13 by denise on Mon Jan 5 19:33:56 1998:

Hmm, the colors have been and still look the same to me...!

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