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Grex Intro Item 154: The "mkhomepage" Routine [linked]
Entered by dpc on Sat Mar 8 00:34:00 UTC 1997:

I saw a reference in the Coop Conference to a routine called 
"mkhomepage", which allows Grexers to create their own home pages.
        Where did this routine come from and how does it work?

30 responses total.



#1 of 30 by valerie on Sat Mar 8 04:34:53 1997:

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#2 of 30 by omni on Sat Mar 8 04:42:32 1997:

  You probably should know some HTML or you're going to be like I was.
Helpless until I learned some. But HTML is pretty easy, and straightforward,
and if someone like me can make a decent home page, anyone can. ;)


#3 of 30 by valerie on Sat Mar 8 14:18:23 1997:

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#4 of 30 by remmers on Sat Mar 8 14:26:57 1997:

(But if you use <blink> I will personally seek you out and
strangle you...  :)


#5 of 30 by rcurl on Sat Mar 8 17:21:37 1997:

This reminds me of the days before word processors were written. Formatting
your documents in arcane codes - like HTML. This happens, of course, at the
beginning of the development of a technology. A few might still want to do
it the hard way, but just as MS_WORD (etc) has replaced coding all the format
by hand, HTML WYSIWYG editors will replace HTML coding by hand. They
already have for me - life is too short.....


#6 of 30 by dpc on Sat Mar 8 20:14:26 1997:

Thanx, Valerie and others!
        Now all I have to do is get up the nerve to try it...8-)


#7 of 30 by gull on Sat Mar 8 21:05:36 1997:

I prefer to do it by hand instead of use Netscape Gold's editor  The reason
being, if there's a standard way to do something and a Netscape way, Gold
will use the Netscape way.  Maybe this is a plot to make everyone's pages
incompatible with other browsers, I don't know.


#8 of 30 by omni on Sat Mar 8 23:29:06 1997:

  Jump right in, Dave. The water's fine.

  Actually, I used MacWeb to develop (yeah that's the term) my web page, and
it turned out pretty well; And while I'm at it, I should add that my web
page has been updated (added 2 essays). The address is http://www.cyberspac
e.
org/~omni  let me know what you think 
<set pimp mode=off>


#9 of 30 by remmers on Sat Mar 8 23:54:54 1997:

(Re #5: It is impossible to write an HTML WYSIWYG editor because
HTML is not a WYSIWYG thing. Instead the best you can do is
WYSIAWYGM -- What You See Is Approximately What You Get Maybe.)


#10 of 30 by ryan1 on Sun Mar 9 03:07:40 1997:

Actually, you could, if the page was made ENTIRELY of one big GIF or JPG 
file, or several combined :)  But that wouldn't be practical.


#11 of 30 by remmers on Sun Mar 9 03:37:18 1997:

An HTML editor wouldn't help you much with one of those either.


#12 of 30 by gull on Sun Mar 9 04:27:19 1997:

Ahem...technically, HTML doesn't describe what something should look like --
it describes what something *is* and lets the browser decide how to display
it.  That's why it's called a markup language, as opposed to being a page
description language, like Postscript.  Of course, people are trying to turn
it into a page description language, so that's becoming less true as time
goes on.


#13 of 30 by popcorn on Sun Mar 9 05:22:56 1997:

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#14 of 30 by rcurl on Sun Mar 9 06:40:13 1997:

You're right John - I should have said, WISIWIG.


#15 of 30 by valerie on Sun Mar 9 17:25:18 1997:

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#16 of 30 by introfw on Sun Mar 9 17:51:26 1997:

This item has been linked from Agora 90 to Intro 154.
Type "join agora" at the Ok: prompt for discussion of
making, breaking, raking, shaking, and other topics
of general interest.


#17 of 30 by janc on Sun Mar 9 20:01:03 1997:

Re #5:  Actually, most of the professors I know still use TeX or LaTeX as
their main word-processing systems.  They aren't even faintly WYSIWYG and
still work like in the olden days -- obscure code words imbedded in your
text.  However, I've yet to see any WYSIWYG word processor that has a good
chance of replacing them.


#18 of 30 by rcurl on Sun Mar 9 22:09:28 1997:

Really? I don't think any of my colleagues in chemical engineering are
using ReX anymore - since the UM mainframes were replaced by deskopts (and
the students are the ones that learned it, at the time). I never learned
it. 



#19 of 30 by scg on Sun Mar 9 22:47:20 1997:

I'd believe that about computer science professors and mathamaticians, and
even one philosopher (my dad), but I'm assuming most non computer/math
professors probably aren't using tex.  Wysiwyg word processors are much easier
to learn.


#20 of 30 by rcurl on Mon Mar 10 01:39:15 1997:

(I hereby copyright "ReX" and "deskopts"....might come in handy...)


#21 of 30 by remmers on Mon Mar 10 12:28:39 1997:

Re #12: With its limited collection of tags and no provision for
extensibility, HTML is a rather emaciated markup language. It's
just not very good for describing what a complex document "is".
The ability to loosely define appearance is its main strength,
and standards efforts seem to be focused on beefing up this
aspect of it. See the new HTML 3.2 standard, which has all kinds
of provisions for specifying appearance: e.g. table cell sizes
in pixels, font sizes, various kinds of justification, choice
of bullet appearance in lists, etc. etc.

If you're interested in decent markup, keep an eye on XML, a new 
markup notation for content delivery via the web.


#22 of 30 by n8rxs on Mon Mar 17 01:47:06 1997:

I was at the university when people were still using that TeXT stuff for
setting up equations to printout it looked more hellish than what I had to do
to to the same thing on my old Apple II with ESC commands.

For a text only web page I found the stuff Valerie suggested more than
sufficient. I was glad to get one extra command from a friend, that beeing the
command needed to change th background color from gray to white (or whatever
color I wanted really.



#23 of 30 by richard on Mon Mar 17 02:04:23 1997:

its amazing how many places are using outdated software.  The freenet in DC
I use still runs on Freeport software that was probably used on the very first
freenets years ago.


#24 of 30 by valerie on Mon Mar 17 04:04:08 1997:

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#25 of 30 by rcurl on Mon Mar 17 06:21:08 1997:

I went looking for that command (to help someone) in info cf, but its not
there. I'll see if I can remember it now.


#26 of 30 by valerie on Mon Mar 17 19:01:37 1997:

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#27 of 30 by rcurl on Mon Mar 17 19:06:16 1997:

(I was really speaking to the utility of the info cf to finding info.)


#28 of 30 by dankan on Fri Oct 24 15:44:00 1997:

Anyone help me to download games for unix terminal from web please.


#29 of 30 by ajitaa on Thu Dec 18 15:47:38 1997:

Ajit
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#30 of 30 by testing on Sat Dec 27 12:04:48 1997:

Hi dear,
   Anybody help me connecting to grex. telnet is not working

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