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What are your favorite things you've found on the internet?
33 responses total.
Thus far, I have two favorites:
*WinZip5.0 Which compresses and decompresses files with the .zip
extension. It does from within Windows, and uses only
one program (it doesn't require pkzip.???). It has
more features than I'll probably ever use, but that's ok.
*Lynx Which is the easy way to see/use hypertext with a vt100.
I also like the way it works as a shell for gophers. With
5 keys, you can easily navigate around cyberspace.
(Where do you get Lynx?)
What's the (dis) connection between Lynx and Mosaic?
He likes them both!
I found Lynx one day while searching the msu-gopher. Just telnet to
msu-gopher, select the last item on the main menu, select 5 on the
network menu, select the last item on the internet menu, select the
last item on the WWW menu, then login as "www".
At this point, you'll be running Lynx. With my vt100 emulator, I
just use the four cursor keys and the space bar to painlessly
navigate through hypertext, gophers, searches, files and other
goodies.
(Actually, I'd like to see Grex run Lynx so that we could have
Michigan's first public access WWW server. Hint, hint. ;-)
re 2 Lynx is available from the U of Kansas, with info available
on the server mentioned above.
re 3 As I understand it (hope this disclaimer will work), Mosaic
requires a full internet connection and allows "point and
click" operation with hypertext. Lynx works with remote
access to a host and emulates the "point and click" with
the cursor keys. In other words, it makes hypertext
accessible to people with remote connections to the
Internet.
Well, the lynx executables at ftp.cc.ukans.edu:pub/lynx, are all unix. You'll have to run it at ukans - or via msu-gopher - unless there is other hosts. I didn't go very far into it, but it appears to be a text interface rather than a graphics interface. I moved up a directory, and found a Mac folder, in which was only mosaic (and all its viewers). Dang! I already have too many projects I'm working on.....
That's right. Where images would appear using Mosaic, "[image]" appears highlighted. If you select the highlighted "[image]" it will transfer the file to your host. That means that you'd have to dl it from the host and view it on your own viewer. BTW, that's what it does with ftp links. You just select the file and it's there on your host. Much easier than ftping. Lynx will probably never replace Mosaic. But for people that can't afford Mosaic connections, Lynx is the next best thing. I heard somewhere that Gophers were supposed to be an easy way to get around and see what's available on the internet. There are a lot of seems (telnet connections, etc.) when gophering to anything other than another gopher. Also, gophers can't use hypertext (to my knowledge). To me, Lynx is what I was hoping to find in gopher--an easy, seemless way to navigate.
(seAmless)
(carl blushes, "I never was any good at sewing.")
I recently discovered Veronica, the search facility that makes Gopher more usable, since you can do key-word searches of Gopher-space and it will provide the results as a Gopher-style menu. The searching can be fairly elaborate.
I'll bet veronica was what I was thinking of for searching by topic. At the time I read about ftp, telnet, archie, veronica, email, WWW, etc. I wasn't using the internet. One of these days I'll go back and review...
I believe there's a "jughead" too, but I don't know what it does. Can "betty" be far behind? And what about "reggie"?
Or how about moose?
I am following up on the previous discussion about Lynx. I followed the posted instructions and went through the MSU gopher to U Kansas and logged in as WWW to run Lynx. It is very cool, even without the images. I easily connected to a WWW site in Japen (NTT) where there was a whole bunch of stuff about how to survive in Japan as a Westerner. It was very interesting. Then I checked out PARC (XEROX Palo Alto). There were a lot of pictures there, so it would be more interesting in Mosaic. Finally I went to a site in Austria that had an on-line hypertext version of the Hacker's Jargon Dictionary. I found out what a kamikaze packet was. Way cool. Then I ran out of time. :-( Go direct to Merit for this stuff, Grex's lines are too precious and too slow. The hypertext was nice. Much easier to deal with than the gopher method of navigating.
I'm glad someone else likes Lynx! There's a lot of stuff available on the World Wide Web, and the Lynx at UofK has pointers to current files. I especially like Nova-Links and GNN. You can easily pick a topic and go on an adventure. This is what I dreamed the Internet would be like when I first heard of gophers. Not only does it run circles around gophers, it can even run them. It's the kind of thing that you have to experience to know what it's like!
I told a zillion people at work about Lynx today.
Did you know that if you're viewing a file you'd like a copy of, you can press "p" for print. It will give you a choice between having a copy mailed to you and having it printed to the screen without the pager. I tried the mailing option this morning, and haven't received the files yet. Perhaps it's because Grex was down most of the morning.
Is there a direct telnet link to Lynx so one doesn't have to wade through the MSU gopher?
Being the independent sort of cuss I am, I can now answer my own question in the affirmative. The telnet address is: kufacts.cc.ukans.edu 23 Enjoy.
You don't need the "23" part; that's the default telnet port.
Re #17. No I didn't know that. That's cool. I'll bet it won't mail me a GIF though, since it can't let me look at one. Re #19. Be that way, Chris, but you'll tie up a grex phone line and do your lynxing at 2400 baud, when the alternative is to free up the line and lynx at 9600 baud. It's worth the extra steps, IMO.
At least that's the alternative for those of you lucky people with 9600+ baud modems. <sigh>
Actually, I did my linking from Merit, though it still was at 2400. I was merely providing the info here, since that's what this conference is about.
The mail option does work. My computer and Grex kept taking turns
being down, so it took a few days to get the files. I'm sure it
doesn't usually take that long!
re 21: Steve, you can press "=" at any of the highlighted options
and it will show you the link to connect to the file.
I'm not sure of the format for a GIF file link, but it will
have the system, the directory, and the filename where
the original is stored.
Thanks, carl, I'll try that.
I looked at the Lynx executables on the ftp site, and found there were
none for a Sun-3. So I ftp'd the source code and compiled it here
with only a minor bit of trouble. And it works very nicely.
For those people who would prefer the higher baud rate of going
through Merit to MSU gopher to get to ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu to run
Lynx, this will be of little interest, but for those of you who are
telnetting there from Grex, this will be a big help I think.
You must be an authorized member (i.e. have internet privileges)
and you must have a full-screen terminal (not a dumb terminal).
Then you can now run it right here on Grex by saying
/u/srw/lynx*/lynx
Interesting bits:
(1) I could not find the freeWAIS software (yet) so it doesn't
do integrated WAIS searches.
(2) the home screen is the ukanaix screen, so it will look familiar.
If anyone wants to get into HTTM(hypertext document) stuff, we
can have our own grex home screen.
(3) I will be requesting that it get installed in /usr/local/bin,
and if staff agrees it will be a little easier to invoke.
I use an alias for the time being.
Since I have decided to appoint myself as lynx guru, please email
me any comments or better yet, post 'em here. In fact,
post 'em even if everything works, so I know how much it's getting
used.
I think I have the WAIS software... I will look and let you know for sure.
Nope, don't have it. I must have deleted it. I forget the address that I FTP'd to to get it. It was thru the gopher though.
The info from ukans said that it was in 1 of two places - ftp2.cc.ukans.edu and sunsite.nc.edu but I looked in both places and didn't see it. We can always add that later, though. We are now in the process of moving lynx to the system directory. So when we're done all you should have to do is type lynx at a shell prompt or !lynx at the Ok: prompt. This has not yet completed though. I can't test it anymore, due to some kind of network problem. I've posted a message in system problems in agora. When this is fixed, it should be working again. If not, I'll try to get it working the first chance I get.
Lynx is now an installed program on Grex, so you can invoke it by just saying lynx at a shell prompt. Thanks to carl for discovering lynx and hinting in reponse #5 to get this to happen.
Yes, this is something I have been trying to get here at Grex for a little while now. I've just been working in the background trying to get information and permission. It's neat to see that Steve could easily do what I had puzzled over.
I'm happy to announce that I have an experimental home page for lynx.
This file will change over the next few days. Please take a look and
tell me what you think!
Just type
lynx /u/carl/test*
or
!lynx /u/carl/test*
This Bbs, without any doubt :)
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