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Grex Internet Item 79: http://thomas.loc.gov download the gummint !
Entered by tsty on Thu Jan 5 22:37:37 UTC 1995:

Download the gummint, in gorious color ...... comments?
  
possible link to Internet?

30 responses total.



#1 of 30 by tsty on Thu Jan 5 23:11:58 1995:

  
Cuss-n-Discuss:
  
grex% lynx http://thomas.loc.gov
                      THOMAS: Legislative Information on the Internet (p1 of 4)

   [Thomas Jefferson logo]

   In the spirit of Thomas Jefferson,
   a service of the U.S. Congress through its Library.

   * Full Text of Legislation
          Full text of all versions of House and Senate bills searchable
          by keyword(s) or by bill number.
          * 103rd Congress
          * 104th Congress (End of January 1995)

   * Full Text of the Congressional Record (Coming soon)
          Full text of the daily account of proceedings on the House and
          Senate Floors searchable by keyword(s).

   * How Our Laws Are Made Edward F. Willett, Jr., House Law Revision

                      THOMAS: Legislative Information on the Internet (p2 of 4)
          Counsel
          An explanation of the lawmaking process from the origin of a
          legislative proposal through its publication as a law.

   * Resolution Adopting the Rules of the House of Representatives for
          the 104th Congress
          Text of the Resolution Adopting the Rules of the House of
          Representatives for the 104th Congress

   * House of Representatives Gopher
          Directory information for House of Representatives members and
          committees; House of Representatives yearly calendar, latest
          daily committee hearing schedules, the current week's House
          floor schedule; visitor information.

   * C-SPAN Gopher
          C-SPAN (Cable-Satellite Public Affairs Network) provides
          program schedules, press releases, 1994 Congressional election       
            results.

                      THOMAS: Legislative Information on the Internet (p3 of 4)

   * Future Enhancements to THOMAS will include adding the Library's
          Bill Digest files, summaries and chronologies of legislation,
          and will integrate them with the full text of bills, thus
          creating a unique presentation of legislative information.
     _________________________________________________________________

   * Visit the Library of Congress World Wide Web Home Page
          Select "Global Electronic Library" for additional U.S.
          Government information.

   * Visit the Library of Congress Gopher LC MARVEL
          Select "U.S. Congress" for additional legislative information;
          select "Government Information" for additional U.S. federal
          and state government resources.

                      THOMAS: Legislative Information on the Internet (p4 of 4)
     _________________________________________________________________

   * Send us comments on this service via our Mail Gateway or send mail
   to thomas@loc.gov
     _________________________________________________________________

   Last update 1/4/95


#2 of 30 by pegasus on Fri Jan 6 01:16:27 1995:

TS,

It would be helpful to me, and perhaps others, if you posted a shorter
header and then put the long text as the first message. Thanks!

        Pattie


#3 of 30 by mju on Fri Jan 6 02:25:09 1995:

You've seen http://www.whitehouse.gov/, right?


#4 of 30 by tsty on Fri Jan 6 03:07:36 1995:

 I think it's terribly difficult to get it much shorter than :
   
 
 :>Item 47:  http://thomas.loc.gov      download the gummint !
 :>Entered by TS Taylor (tsty) on Thu, Jan  5, 1995 (17:37):
 :>
 :> Download the gummint, in gorious color ...... comments?
 :>
 :> possible link to Internet?
 :>
 :>3 responses total.
 :>
 :>
 :>#1 of 3: by TS Taylor (tsty) on Thu, Jan  5, 1995 (18:11):
 :>
 :> Cuss-n-Discuss:
 :>
 :> grex% lynx http://thomas.loc.gov
  
But of course, I'm always open to suggestions.



#5 of 30 by danr on Fri Jan 6 04:04:50 1995:

Getting back to the topic, I think this is a great idea.  I'm glad
to see this happening.


#6 of 30 by rcurl on Fri Jan 6 07:11:32 1995:

Re #3: you can get into an enormous body of government information
via http://www.whitehouse.gov/, but I haven't compared it to this
lynx site. How are they the same, or different?


#7 of 30 by cel on Fri Jan 6 16:19:03 1995:

thomas, named after thomas jefferson, was introduced yesterday by
speaker of the house gingrich.  it's purpose is to make information
available to the public which was previously only easily accessible
to congressional lobbyists.  they plan to keep the same type of
information on thomas that the executive branch maintains on
whitehouse.gov:  the text of legislation, press releases, etc.
one of michigan's representatives (i forget who) lead the team
that set up thomas.

so the real difference is thomas is "owned" by congress, and
whitehouse.gov is "owned" by the president's staff.


#8 of 30 by bartlett on Sat Jan 7 01:35:33 1995:

Agora 47 linked to Internet 79.

I took a brief peek at this tonight and while I don't know how
comprehensive the service is, it sure beats hell out of trying to get
anything out of locis (the Library of Congress Information Service), which
uses an archaeic search engine and an interface that makes Ghenghiz Khan
look friendly.  Enjoy.

     Chris



#9 of 30 by robh on Sat Jan 7 02:41:33 1995:

And remember, folks, the correct form of that URL is

        http://thomas.loc.gov/

Always remember to include the trailing slash, or you may
have trouble accessing the links on that page.

Your friendly neighborhood lynxadmin, Rob


#10 of 30 by tsty on Sun Jan 8 08:36:31 1995:

hmm, that command i used was cut-n-pasted - what's the
difference? I hit several of the links but didn't
include them in #1. Was I lucky?


#11 of 30 by robh on Sun Jan 8 22:52:04 1995:

If you try accessing links on the same system as thomas.loc.gov,
and you haven't included the trailing /, it may not be able to
load them properly.  Links to different sites will work fine.


#12 of 30 by rcurl on Sun Jan 8 23:57:47 1995:

I mosaiced to Thomas yesterday, and had a look at the HofR Gopher:
surprised to learn that only 40 representatives are listed in the
directory. What's surprising is that this service got launched in
such an unfinished state, unlike any printed listing that would
be produced. However, they don't want you to e-mail your reps
until you send them a postcard first, to etablish that you *are*
their constituent. 


#13 of 30 by danr on Mon Jan 9 01:22:32 1995:

I think only 40 reps are listed because only 40 are using email
or those are the only ones that want to accept email from their
constituents.


#14 of 30 by bartlett on Mon Jan 9 05:24:08 1995:

Note that if you are using Netscape, the trailing slash is unnecessary and
the URL
http://thomas.loc.gov
is sufficient.



#15 of 30 by rcurl on Mon Jan 9 05:41:24 1995:

Re #13: I think so too, but my point was that this exhibit a difference
of attitude toward the public, for better or worse. They all had
postal mail addresses simultaneously ;->


#16 of 30 by danr on Mon Jan 9 12:05:17 1995:

That's true, but mail preceded the House of Reps, email came after.

I think the listing should put some pressure on those not listed to
get listed.


#17 of 30 by tsty on Mon Jan 9 14:46:05 1995:

lots of pressure, lots of .... "fun?"   (heh-heh)


#18 of 30 by rcurl on Mon Jan 9 14:57:55 1995:

We're going to start seeing form e-mail responses ("I understand
your concern about.....but....."). These are going to be even
more bizarre than the form mail responses, which come weeks later
when you've forgotten what you wrote. And now, you'll just be able
to hit  r   . (It said, though, that responses *may* come by mail...)


#19 of 30 by chi1taxi on Sun Jan 15 10:26:31 1995:

ok, I can't seem to do it.  What exactly do I type from the picospan promt?
Thanks.


#20 of 30 by mwarner on Sun Jan 15 19:14:40 1995:

    (drumroll)

      Type this at picospan o.k.:       !lynx http://thomas.loc.gov/

  (symbols crash)

    (I just tried it.  It works.)


#21 of 30 by rcurl on Sun Jan 15 20:50:35 1995:

Your "symbols" sure did crash ;->


#22 of 30 by mwarner on Mon Jan 16 02:26:53 1995:

http:\\metaphor.grammar.mixed.oops\


#23 of 30 by popcorn on Mon Jan 16 19:39:45 1995:

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#24 of 30 by decaff on Mon Feb 13 22:25:53 1995:

Any one else got any good URL's?!?!?!?!


#25 of 30 by srw on Tue Feb 14 04:17:37 1995:

**Tax Forms Online** -- The Treasury Department has finally put up
  a Web server. Although this may not be inherently exciting, at
  least the IRS is doing something useful with it: they've put tax
  information and Abode Acrobat (PDF) versions of recent federal tax
  forms online, including the infamous 1040s and their associated
  schedules.

http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/taxforms.html

  Forms for the years 1990 through 1994 are available (with a
  searchable index) and the PDF versions of these forms can be
  printed and used like normal tax forms (with some exceptions due
  to special color-coding, including the 1040EZ and the 1099-
  FAMILY). Typical forms consume a little over 100K in PDF format,
  and can be viewed and printed with the Acrobat Reader, also
  available from the Treasury Department site.

http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/acroread.html

  In addition, S-Cubed (a division of Maxwell Laboratories, Inc.)
  maintains the Taxing Times Web service, where they plan to make
  PostScript versions of tax forms available. Although the site is
  still under construction (and they don't yet have 1994 forms
  online) they do have tax forms from some states, plus links to
  public domain tax software, Canadian Tax forms in Excel format,
  and the entire U.S. tax code. Thanks to Chris Habig
  <chabig%f15.edw@mhs.elan.af.mil> for some of this information.
  [GD]

http://www.scubed.com/tax/tax.html



#26 of 30 by aruba on Tue Feb 14 05:07:07 1995:

What's PDF format, Steve?


#27 of 30 by peacefrg on Tue Feb 14 19:40:23 1995:

What does URL stand for. I know what it means but I never
knew the initials meaning


#28 of 30 by rcurl on Tue Feb 14 20:34:25 1995:

Universal Resource Locator


#29 of 30 by srw on Wed Feb 15 07:28:05 1995:

PDF is Adobe's cross-platform graphic format. It requires (free) Acrobat
reader. I have never tried it, though.


#30 of 30 by marcvh on Sun Feb 19 02:51:59 1995:

Actually, the U is for "Uniform" though it used to be called "Universal" by
some people.  PDF is Portable Document Format, a kind of souped-up PostScript.
Viewing software is free and easily available, but tools to create or
edit PDF files cost fairly big bucks.

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