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The following is a workshop on the Internet which is available by mail. Just subscribe to the mailing list to join... > The Roadmap for the Information Superhighway Interactive Internet > Training Workshop > > FREE Internet training workshop open to anyone who wishes to > subscribe. The entire Roadmap workshop will take place on the > ROADMAP list (ROADMAP is a distribution list, not a discussion list). > > The Roadmap workshop sessions will cover: E-mail; Listservs, > Majordomo, Listproc and other distribution systems; Usenet; FTP; > Archie; Gopher; Veronica; Address Searches; WAIS; WWW; and many > other topics. As a number of ROADMAP subscribers only have e-mail > access, the Roadmap workshop will also teach how to access many > Internet tools (FTP, Archie, Gopher, etc.) using E-mail. > > The first Roadmap for the Information Superhighway workshop will > begin in *OCTOBER 1994*. To subscribe, please send the following > command in the BODY of your e-mail letter to LISTSERV@UA1VM.UA.EDU on > the Internet: > > SUB ROADMAP yourfirstname yourlastname > > For example: > > SUB Roadmap Bill Gates > > Owner: Patrick Crispen <PCRISPE1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
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Hey, I signed,up! The info they send out makes it look like fun. The `class' doesn't start 'till october, but they say they'll send out updates just to keep up the interest.
I saw where they have over 10,000(?) people signed up, and that they plan on doing another session. There's a lot of people that want to learn the fine points of the internet.
10000 ninnies- I learned about the Internet from Zen and the art of the Internet, and I even downloaded and bound it into a book.
The real question, of course, is how to get all 10,000 of them to try Grex... <robh ducks>
You calling me a ninny, omni? Them's fightin' words!
not you, rane.
I'll tell you whether I was or not when the Roadmap arrives.
Latest Roadmap posting asks that we "find the name, telephone number and e-mail address of someone who works (sic) for your local Internet service provider who can help you if you ever get lost or have any questions". Any volunteers?
Rane, you're a helper, why don't you use yourself?!? >8) Seriously, try typing "help" at the Grex login prompt. There are a bunch of people listed there to provide help to new users, including their phone numbers.
Well, I did intend to use myself - but I was just posting what Roadmap asked us to do. Nevertheless, if we had some real internet *gurus* here that would volunteer to be Roadmap guides, we'd know who would least mind being asked about Roadmap sessions. This is somewhat different than newusers' help, so I thought I'd ask. The volunteer guides should probably enroll and follow the Roadmap sessions, so questions and answers would be in context.
Sounds like the Roadmap series has begun. I didn't think it was going to start until October. Is anyone archiving the lessons?
No, the first Session does begin in October. However these are preparatory steps (that Roadmap is recommending).
I might give this a try. I already know how to hop around the net fairly well, but it looks like the Roadmap series will cover a few things I haven't done much with yet.
That's what I thought. Also, my hopping around the net is pretty much self-taught. It might be very useful to see how it can be done with maximum convenience and versatility.
I subscribed to the Roadmap via a login that was caught in the password file problem. It appears the mail alias didn't save my subscription. Hope they're taking new subscribers. Have I missed much preliminary stuff, Rane?
I subscribed yesterday and there was no problem (the listserver response was very fast). One thing you find out in capital letters is that the Roadmap series doesn't start until mid-October. So I don't believe you've missed anything yet (unless it's past mid-October and I've lost a couple months someplace...).
No, you've missed nothing that matters. They haven't even assignd the
textbooks yet, nor what # pencils you need ;-). They have, though,
posted the syllabus. Hmm..lets see if I have it around here - be right
back...
Thursday, October 6 Workshop starts; welcome message
Friday, October 7 Review of course goals
October 10-14 (M-F) E-mail
Listservs
Other Mail Servers
Nettiquitte
October 17-21 (M-F) Usenet
Spamming and ULs
Internet Security
Telnet
October 24-28 (M-F) FTP
FTPmail
Archie
WAIS
Oct 31-Nov 4 (M-F) Gopher
Bookmarks and Booklists
Veronica Searches
Gophermail
November 7-11 (M-F) WWW (including Mosaic and Lynx)
Web Searches
Address Searches and Finger
IRC/MUDs/MOOs and other "talkers"
The future ...
Friday, November 11 Workshop Ends
I wrote to the moderator, asking permission to extract the lessons for archival purposes here on grex, in an openly accessible account. Also, to put them together into a help type manual for members/newusers. He thought that was just fine, and had no problem with the idea. So, where're we putting the names of the volunteers for internet guru?
I think I'll sign up too.
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I will volunteer to be one of the local gurus. I can not guarentee the
quickest response times. But i do have one of the best resources around
to help out.
Oh, by the way, this is the heirarchy that people should follow if they
are reporting problems.
grex help staff
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grex sys admin staff
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ICI (ICnet) staff
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CICnet staff
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Merit Operations Staff
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ANS Operations Staff
Please do not jump the food chain!
Have fun with the hunt...
Thanks for the offer to help. What is your background and in what areas would you feel most qualified to participate?
If a problem does not concern Grex internally (e.g. something that staff can fix), then why shouldn't we, for instance, talk to Merit? Cut to the chase...why get bogged down talking to people that are going to say "that's not my job?". We do, however, know that we aren't supposed to bother ICnet staff directly... ...so that shouldn't even be an option in the "chain"
I am keeping all "lessons" received, permitted, in my home directory as roadmap.x, where currently x runs from 1 to 12.
Everyone electing to take the Roadmap workshops must be in one or another now (and perhaps others are reading it here, in /u/rcurl/roadmap.x). So, what do you think of it? I think that I've learned a great deal over the past year that I've been 'surfin' the internet, and that not a lot in the workshop is new, but I have downloaded some of the specifics, and sites, for Mailing Lists and Telnet Hosts, to maybe check out some more of them. I expect to learn some new things in future workshops, will will continue to follow them. (I do think, though, that some time and space is being wasted with irrelevancies, which don't help even internet novices much.)
Like the squirrels... :)
I like it a lot! The squirrel stories are *cute*, the listserv lessons have to be repeated so "mistakes" are not made. Besides, an instructor can not slap a student over the network! 8-) I've been Surfin for a while, and his description of the net and how it works was the best one I've found yet. I'm waiting for the stuff I don't know anything about, like archie, wais, and veronica.
Earlier kentn says: | We do, however, know that we aren't supposed to bother ICnet staff | directly... | ...so that shouldn't even be an option in the "chain" Are you serious? Grex is buying an internet pipe from a provider that won't help if there is a problem?! I understand that for some issues, all that would happen is that the probelm would be pushed up the ladder, but does ICnet help when there are problems with the internal ICnet network? That can't be all true though. I rarely see any routing problems comming from the ICnet NOC, so they can't be all that bad at handling problems. But, kentn is right. The normal user of grex shouldn't be talking to the ICnet NOC. Only a handful of grex "contact" people should be able to push problems up the ladder. Those same handful of people should be the ones that talk to the CIC/MERIT and ANS NOC's. Anyway, In answer to Mary's question, I have experience troubleshooting network/routing problems, so I can be of assistance in helping people that want to get somewhere on the net get there. I never recieved any problem reports, so I guess that things are going smoothly with this, no?
My understanding is not that nobody from Grex is supposed to talk to ICNet staff, but that ICNet doesn't want all of us coming to them whenever there is a problem. If I understand the system correctly, people are supposed to talk to the Grex staff, who will then pass information or complaints on to ICNet if it's determined that the problem isn't on Grex.
That's my understanding as well. Imagine, poor Ivars over at ICNet getting 1000 different messages all saying the same thing. I'd get pretty annoyed by that.
Right, at least that's the way I understood things. For the average user, i.e., non-staff person, the "call ICNet" step should not be in the list because "talk to staff" comes before that and *they* are the ones to make the decision to call ICNet.
scg, robh, and kentn have it analyzed exactly right.
So each member of the Grex staff gets 1000 different messages all saying the same thing, instead ...
Yes, that's what keeps life interesting...
The LISTSERVER at the University of Alabama is still sending out the lessons but the author has been overwhelmed by the huge response. The complete course can be downloaded locally from HAL_9000 @ 313-663-4173 as ROADMAP.ZIP
The following news about the roadmap workshop - that it is on the web - has been brought over from winter '96 agora Announcements: #456 of 470: by Rane Curl (rcurl) on Mon, Mar 4, 1996 (01:46): I would like to announce that, if anyone is looking for an Internet Tutorial, that ROADMAP is still around. Just read /roadmap/roadmap.intro and /roadmap/roadmap.index, and go from there. There are nearly fifty (50) short tutorials in the /roadmap directory on internet topics up through the WEB (but it ends before Netscape came along). #458 of 470: by Simcha (simcha) on Mon, Mar 4, 1996 (09:17): Roadmap can also be accessed through the web. According to information released by Patrick Crispin, author of Roadmap: >If you have access to a Web browser, check out the *NEWLY UPDATED* >Roadmap homepage at > >http://ua1vm.ua.edu/~crispen/roadmap.html > >If you don't have web access, you can still find out how to to retrieve >the Roadmap workshop lessons via e-mail, and also find out a little more >about the Roadmap workshop itself, by sending an e-mail letter to > >LISTSERV@UA1VM.UA.EDU > >with the command > >GET MAP PACKAGE F=MAIL > >in the body of your e-mail letter. The LISTSERV will respond, usually >within 24 hours, by e-mailing you two letters: one telling you a little >more about the Roadmap workshop, and another telling you how you can >retrieve the workshop lessons with a few, simple e-mail commands. The LISTSERV may also send you the latest information about Crispin's upcoming Atlas Web training workshop, which will start in April and is free and self paced. #459 of 470: by Rane Curl (rcurl) on Mon, Mar 4, 1996 (10:35): Great! I was a recipient of the original Roadmap Workshop, but wasn't sent any notice that Crispin had made it a vocation. To add to the above, you can reach that website from here with the lynx command lynx http://ua1vm.ua.edu/~crispen/roadmap.html
I understand that if you got the old Roadmap, there are a couple of lessons that have been updated. If you don't have access to a web browser, and want to use the E-mail listserver, send e-mail to the address above with the command GET NEWMAP PACKAGE F=MAIL and that should get you two revised lessons.
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