I've been tending to use telnet commands as magic incantations, without
fully understanding them.  Can anyone tell me if there's any doc around
which explains (lists) what the port argument's values mean?  Thanks.

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And I just realized I knew all the pieces without putting them together.
The "port" is the service # in /etc/services, right?  Which has some
standard entries, but also locally-defined ones - right?
<sigh>

Yup.

I got a stupid question How can i down load files from UseNews net?
Bianary of course is that an ftp thing???

Hoo boy, there are so many ways to interpret that question.
If you mean "How do I get binary files from Usenet onto
my Grex directory", use the e command to extract the files
from the uuencoded text in the article.  If you mean
"How do I get binary files from my Grex directory to
my home computer", use any of our file transfer protocols,
my favorite being sz.  DO NOT USE THE -a OPTION!!!
If your question is "How do I get binary files from Usenet
to my home computer", combine the previous two answers.

ftp can be used to get binaries from remote systems.
Make sure you use the "binary" command to allow binary
transfer.  Then you can download them, as above.

Well actually it was both thanks for the info I coould not find any
kind of info on Downloads in the help files on grex. I also am very
new to the unix system ....... So all this is very much appreceated
to a newbie like me thanks again.

Maybe a statement like "We don't have a download area" should be
added to the FAQ?

I'm not understanding rebh's answer.  How do I (easily) download data 
from Internet?  I'd appreciate a non-technical explanation. thanks in
advance.

I'm afraid its a technical question! However, the first thing is for
you to tell us what your system, communication software, and connection
are.

i have a MacIntosh Quadra 610 with a Hayes SmartCom 14.4 modem.  Does that 
tell you enough?  Thanks in advance.

Well, first I want to know who this rebh is.  >8)

Secondly, what software are you using?  This is very
important.  Mainly we need to know, what kinds of
downloads can your program handle?  Kermit is best,
if you're telnetting here.

Thirdly, I see that you're not a member of Grex,
which means you can't get any files from any Internet sites
using our system.  Do you have access to some other Internet
account?  (Sorry to sound so mercenary, but if you
can't use FTP, then downloading files becomes a moot point.)

One member of the bricker faily has been a member for two years.  The other is
waiting to pay dues till grex is just a bit more relaible.  Maybe you'd
feel more like answering the question for me, since I have paid my dues.

Fair enough - what computer are you using?  What communications
software are you using?  What file transfer protocols can your
software handle?

(I don't think that answering the question was dependent on membership -
only whether Internet access was an option.)

(True enough, I'm so disgustingly helpful I'll even assist
people who have Internet accounts elsewhere.)

How do you access Usenet off of grex?

It varies wildly from system to system.  On most Unix systems,
typing "rn" or "trn" or sometimes "tin" will get you Usenet.

If you mean "how do I use an off-site NNTP server from Grex",
if you're a member of the cooperative, enter the following
Unix command:

        setenv NNTPSERVER=servername

where "servername" is the name of the off-site server.  Then
wehn you use rn or trn or tin, it will access that server.

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