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I have friends or relatives in places like Ft. Lauderdale, FL, Rochester, NY and Lorain, OH with modems. How can I help them find systems like Grex connected to the Internet so they can email with me? If you have friends in Boston looking for something like grex, check out world.std.com.
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There is a lorain county freenet associated with Oberlin. the domain name there is freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu, but I don't have info about their local phone numbers. No guarantee, but you might try sending a request to info@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu and they might tell you how to get your friends/relatives connected. I have no info on Ft. Lauderdale or Rochester.
The login for the freenets is typically "guest" or "visitor" as the login,
with the other one as the password (very confusing). If you get to them
through the msu gopher, it will have instructions on how to log in.
Is world.std.com a free system, or is there a fee for it?
For the record, world.std.com charges five dollars per month plus two dollars an hour. Anybody know of something free in the Boston area (something that's really like grex...)? Interestingly, fingering at world.std.com produces a message saying it's a "public access system," which is what grex and m-net call themselves too. It wasn't until after I started to run the newuser program that it asked me to agree to pay the charges.
public access <> free access
This is certainly true. Panix in NY and Nyx in Denver are both public access fee systems, I believe. I will ask my son in Boston and see if he's heard of one.
Re: International Internet Association
From info@iia.org Mon Jun 13 15:27:57 1994
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:24:57 -0400
From: IIA information autoresponder <info@iia.org>
Subject: Information about the Int'l Internet Association
[ This is an automated response to your email to info@iia.org. If you have
questions for a real live person, send them to info-person@iia.org. ]
[ Note -- This is a beta version of this doccument, and may not be 100%
accurate. Please report apparent innacuracies to info-person@iia.org. ]
Q: Who is the IIA?
A: The International Internet Association is the largest non-profit provider
of free Internet access and services in the world. We are a Washington
based association (with technical facilities in New Jersey) dedicated to
the free flow of information without regard to position or affiliation.
The IIA is primarily composed of engineers and computer and network
enthusiasts dedicated to this ideal. We work diligently to ensure that
all aspects of our society, be they individual, corporate, social,
educational, intellectual, virtual, or correctional, have the opportunity
to take part in the world of tomorrow, which we believe will be online.
Q: What services does the IIA provide?
A: Currently, the IIA allows a full-access shell account on one of it's
SUN SparcStation 10 hosts, with access to a full suite of Internet
services including email, gopher, Usenet news, FTP, wais, WWW, IRC, etc.
The IIA also offers a very easy to use menu system to further ease online
navigation.
The IIA will also be offering, in the near future, UUCP and SLIP access to
the Internet. Please see the 'uucp' and 'slip' info bulletins for more info.
The IIA is also in the initial stages of developing a graphical client
interface that will run on any PC, and will bring the Internet, with
point-and-click ease, directly to your home or office.
The IIA also plans to soon start providing information services to their
users and to the net as a whole, such as books on-line and health-care
advice, and on assisting various worthwhile associations, such as the
National Association of Elementary School Principals in communicating with
their members and furthering their goals.
Q: What is the IIA's electronic mail address?
A: The IIA's email domain is 'iia.org'. (NOT iia.com). Requests for
information should be mailed to info@iia.org. See the info file
'addresses' for more interesting addresses.
Q: How do I get access?
A: If you're on the system, type 'info application'. If you're not, the
'info@iia.org' auto-responder will send you one if you send it a message.
Q: If you're a non-profit association, what is your source of funding?
How do you pay for the services you provide?
A: With difficulty. Wheeling & dealing, elbow grease, and luck. Currently,
the majority of IIA funding comes from private contributions. The IIA
is a not-for-profit association incorporated in the District of Columbia
November 18, 1993, and have a federal 501(c)(3) non-profit application
pending, which will enable us to receive tax-deductible donations.
Q: Why does the IIA request a credit card number, and why does this
"non-profit" organization change for calls made via their 800 number?
A: First, a credit card number is only required for 800 number access. If
you do not provide a credit card number, we simply remove your ability to
access us via our 800 number
Unfortunately, the IIA is not yet in a position to allow local phone
coverage for the entire nation. Thus, an 800 number is provided to
allow flat-rate access to our services, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week,
from any point in the domestic US, including Alaska, Hawai'i, and
US Territories.
Also unfortunately, 800 time is not free -- We have to pay for it. We
simply pass on the cost to the user. We do not, nor will we ever,
charge for access to the Internet.
Q: Why do you have a DC address when you primarily operate out of NJ?
A: Originally it was planned that we would launch our operations from the
nations capital. Several of our founding members live in that region
and the symbolism is very strong. Unfortunately the reality of the swamp
by the Potomac is that they have one of the least capable
telecommunications infrastructures in the nation. Our attempts to make the
IIA function from a technical standpoint were so fraught with problems
that we ultimately decided to work instead from our research facility in
New Jersey. We still do a great deal of our administrative work out of
Washington D.C., and will maintain operations in that area.
Q: Why are you providing local access in NJ, but not in DC? When are you
going to provide local access in DC?
A: The IIA is currently trying desperately to get itself caught up -- The
huge influx of applications into the offices caught everyone a bit
by surprise.
Our current focus at the moment is to get our system stable and fine-
tuned, and our files caught up. Then we will address the above concern,
and others.
Q: Why are most of the calls to the IIA answered by a voice-mail system?
A: The IIA gets an absolutely huge number of calls and electronic messages.
new staff has been hired to answer the phones, answer voice-mail, and
answer electronic mail, but the sheer volume (of both incoming data,
and backlogs) still prevents us from being as "reachable" as we would
like to be. Most of the IIA people work 14 or 16 hours a day trying to
get things caught up, so give us some time.
A registration form for access is included below.
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Registration form for FREE Internet access
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Print this out, and fax it to: 202-387-5446, or mail it to:
International Internet Association
Suit 852
2020 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20006
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Name __________________________________________________________
Address ______________________________________________________
______________________________________________________
Fax: ( ) _____ - ________ Phone: ( ) ____ - ________
* 800 access: If you would like to be able to access our services via our
800 number, please include a credit card number below:
Credit Card: VISA MASTER-CARD AMEX
Number: _______________________________________ Expires: _________
Please read the following agreement, and sign below. Please sign even if
you did not include credit card information above.
I understand that this account will be used for lawful purposes and I accept
responsibility for my actions while on-line. I will not hold the IIA
responsible for any activities occuring, or initiated by any user who
makes knowing use of the ID which the IIA assigns to me.
I agree and authorize that any use of the 800 number made available to me by
the IIA will be billed to my credit card at a rate of $.20 per minute, or
less. (Currently at $.18/min).
I authorize use of this account for approved on-line services.
Signature: ___________________________________________ Date: ____________
Ummm...some time ago I d/led a long list of public dial-in's all across the USA. Some are free, some are not. Trouble is, this was compiled in 1992, I think. I wrote to the author but he is no longer maintaining the list. He recommended I post to a specific USENET group but at that time I didn't have USENET access and never tried that. Still, I have this list. If anyone would like to see it, mail me at <take6@grex.cyberspace.org> and I will happily forward you a copy. Beware though that the response will come from a different address which you CANNOT respond to. Re-e-mail me at the grex address. David
Is this the PDIAL list? I have it here in /home/rcurl/PDIAL.list
Here is another Internet providers list from usenet.
alt.internet.services #23078 (49 more) [1]
From: clp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (Ritesh Patel)
[1] Internet Access Providers List
Date: Mon Aug 22 19:25:19 EDT 1994
Organization: University of Michigan
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Internet Access Providers List. Provided by Ritesh Patel
Please note that 800 number providers may service more than one area code.
Name E-mail Voice Phone
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The Connection info@cnct.com 201 435-4414
PLanet Access Networks info@planet.net 201-691-4704
Connix info@connix.com 203-349-7059
SeaNet igor@seanet.com 206 343-7828
NorthwestNet info@nwnet.net 206-562-3000
MAINE.NET sales@maine.net 207 780.6381
207-657.5078
Maestro info@maestro.com 212-240-9600
ECHO 212-255-3839
Pipeline info@pipeline.com 212-267-8606
Net23.COM 212-642-3733
Panix info@panix.com 212-877-4854
Interport Communications info@interport.net 212-989-1128
EarthLink Network info@earthlink.net 213-644-9500
ExchangeNET info@en.com 216-261-4593
SURAnet kdonalds@sura.net 301 982-4600
US Net info@us.net 301-572-5926
CO Supernet 303 273-3472
Westnet pburns@yuma.acns.colostate.e303 491-7260
WVNET cc011041@wvnvms.wvnet.edu 304 293-5192
SatelNET Communications admin@satelnet.org 305-434-8738
Earth Spirit Online info@earthspirit.org 310-264-4785
CineNet Communications info@cinenet.net 310-399-4421
Los Nettos los-nettos-info@isi.edu 310-822-1511
CSUnet nethelp@csu.net 310-985-9661
Tezcatlipoca Inc info@tezcat.com 312 850-0181
MCSNet info@mcs.net 312-248-8649
312-248-8649
MSEN info@msen.com 313 998-4562
IACNet info@ic.net 313-998-0090
NYSERNet info@nysernet.org 315-453-2912
IQuest Network Services info@iquest.net 317-259-5050
MindSpring Enterprises Inc info@mindspring.com 404-888-0725
Aimnet Information Servcies info@aimnet.com 408-257-0900
South Valley Internet info@garlic.com 408-683-4533
PSCNET pscnet-admin@psc.edu 412-268-4960
PREPnet twb+@andrew.cmu.edu 412-268-7870
Telerama info@telerama.lm.com 412-481-3505
ViaNet Communications info@via.net 415 903-2242
CRL 415-381-2800
LineX Communications info@linex.com 415-455-1650
QuakeNet info@Quake.Net 415-655-6607
Sibylline, Inc. info@sibylline.com 501.521.4660
Teleport info@teleport.com 503 223-4245
Internetworks info@i.net 503-233-4774
Computer Systems Consulting listserv@spy.org 505 984-0085
UltraNet Communications, Inc. info@ultranet.com 508-229-8400
800-763-8111
FOURnet Information Network info@four.net 508-291-1774
Intuitive information, inc. info@iii.net 508-342-1100
Internet On-Ramp, Inc. info@on-ramp.ior.com 509-927-7267
Beckemeyer Development info@bdt.com 510-530-9637
HoloNet Information Access info@holonet.net 510-704-0160
THEnet f.sayre@utexas.edu 512 471-2444
Zilker Internet Park jsq@zilker.net 512-206-3850
Illuminati Online info@io.com 512-447-7866
Real/Time Communications info@realtime.net 512-451-0046
Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Long Island Information, Inc info@liii.com 516-248-5381
LI Net info@li.net 516-476-1168
Network-USA all-info@netusa.net 516-543-0234
Wizvax Communication info@wizvax.com 518-271-6005
Primenet info@primenet.com 602-870-1010
MV Communications info@mv.mv.com 603 429 2223
WiscNet tad@cs.wisc.edu 608 262-8874
FullFeed Communications info@FullFeed.Com 608-246-4239
New Jersey Computer Connection info@pluto.njcc.com 609-896-2799
FishNet info@pond.com 610-337-9994
Millennium Commuciations, Inc. info@millcomm.com 612 and 507
InforMNs howe@informns.k12.mn.us 612-638-8786
StarNet Communications, Inc info@winternet.com 612-941-9177
Infinite Systems info@infinet.com 614/268-9941
Edge edge.ercnet.com 615-726-8700
The Internet Access Company info@tiac.net 617-275-2221
Pioneer Neighborhood Pioneer Gloinfo@pn.com 617-646-4800
NEARNET nearnet-join@near.net 617-873-8730
Red River Net lien@rrnet.com 701 232-2227
NevadaNet braddlee@nevada.edu 702 784-4827
Connectus 702-323-2008
Genine Computing Resources info@gcr.com 703-878-4680
International Connections Manager 703-904-2230
FXNET info@fx.net 704-338-4670
Northcoast Internet info@northcoast.com 707-443-8696
WorldWide Access info@wwa.com 708 367 1870
312-282-8605
708-367-1871
netILLINOIS p-roll@nwu.edu 708 866-1825
InterAccess 708-498-2542
Sesquinet farrell@rice.edu 713 527-4988
Free Internet Service info@free.org 715-743-1700
CNS Community News Service Inc. info@cscns.com 719-592-1240
PCNet 800 664-INET
SprintLink info@sprintlink.net 800 817-7755
AlterNet 800-258-4034
703-204-8000
Savvy info@savvy.com 800-275-7455
Global Enterprise Services Inc. market@jvnc.net 800-35-TIGER
IgLou Internet Services info@iglou.com 800-436-IGLOU
The Rabbit Network Inc. info@rabbit.net 800-456-0094
810-790-0156
ANS info@ans.net 800-456-8267
InterCon 800-468-7266
Netcom info@netcom.com 800-531-6363
408-554-8649
Delphi Internet 800-695-4005
PSINet info@psi.com 800-82PSI82
703 620-6651
Interpath info@interpath.net 800-849-6305
919-890-6305
InfiNet, L.C 800-849-7214
CERFnet sales@cerf.net 800-876-2373
619-455-3900
CRIS 800-877-5045
CICNet 800-947-4754
Digital Express Group, Inc. sales@access.digex.net 800-969-9090
Neosoft Inc info@neosoft.com 800-GET-NEOS
713 504 314
Neosoft Internet Services info@neosoft.com 800-GET-NEOSOFT
713-684-5969
InteleCom Data Systems, info@ids.net, 800-IDS-1680
Mindovox info@phantom.com 800-MINDVOX
Prometheus info@ping.com 800-PING-TEL
Internet Direct 801-578-0300
PACCOM torben@hawaii.edu 808-956-3499
Lightside, Inc. lightside@lightside.com 818-858-8982
Lightside, Inc. 818-858-9261
TZ-Link info@j51.com 914-353-5443
Cloud 9 Internet info@cloud9.net 914-682-0626
MHVNet info@mhv.net 914-229-9853
Galaxy Star Systems info@galstar.com 918-835-3233
CONCERT info@concert.net 919-248-1999
PING e.V. Germany info@ping.de +49-231-92506070
Inter Networking Systems info@ins.net +49-2305-3565-05
Electriciti
INTAC Access Corporation info@intac.com
Internex On-line scrappy@io.org
MIDnet info@mid.net, sales@mid.net
Mordor - Public Access Unix info@ritz.mordor.com
Mordor International BBS
New-York.Net
NIC info@nic.com
The Black Box info@blkbox.com
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Other lists
1. PDIAL list of Public Access Providers by Peter Kaminski
gopher://nic.merit.edu:7043/00/internet/providers/pdial
2. Internet Access Providers List. From the book "Internet: Getting Started
http://spectrum.rns.com:8080/internet/access.html
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Ritesh Patel
clp@tiamat.umd.umich.edu or
rhpatel@aol.com
PDIAL is available in /u/rcurl/PDIAL.list
For a list of freenets across the country, get into metronet.lib.mi.us This is a free public host with free Telnet, gopher, www, etc. In one of its menus it has (actually the 1st one) it has a Greater Detroit Freenet and other freenets across the country. I think there is over a hundred and when you select one you are automatically telnetted to the site, where youusually can open an account (usually for free and get e-mail, etc.). to get in: at the username: public at the password: library this is all FREE stuff and worth the price.
I couldn't help noticing that all the 313 numbers there are Ann Arbor numbers, and that there were none listed in 810. The Detroit area must be commercial-Internet-providor deprived.
I believe you will find plenty (520 approx) listed as 313 in the Horst Mann's list. (Type "menu" at the OK, then select "Other Menus." The list has not been updated to reflect the change from 313 to 810, but there are numbers galore.
I don't know if any one can help me on this subject, but I will try any ways. I know of a couple of BBSs which only allopw you to connect by dialing up, this is a problem when you live far away from where the BBS is located. What I am asking, is, does anyone know of any Outdials or GOD(Global Outdials) which I can access through Telnet, and the internet. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
I would not expect anyone to run a free outdial which you could telnet to, but it might not be too expensive for someone to set one up in the town with the interesting BBSs. I would ask on the BBS in question, and I would ask the ISPs in the area if they want to sell you dial out service for that purpose.
Hello there is Freenet homepage in Canada from Mr Scott. scottd@moondog.usask.ca. He also compile list of Hytelnet. Another great resource is NIXPUB. I have the doc. if you need it I will send using uuencode. Regards (AW)
Peter Scott's index is the best index of Community networks and freenets. It has been around for years. http://www.lights.com/freenet/
anybody know where to get something like Grex in the United Kingdom?
there is nothing like Grex anywhere.
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