This is the telnet item.  Ask questions, let us know about interesting
telnet sites or whatever.

58 responses total.

For those who don't know, telnet is a program that allows users to log into
a system, then log into another system without leaving the first system.  In
order to use it, you must know the name of the target system (e.g
sils.umich.edu) or the numeric address e.g (141.211.203.31).

Do you not leave the first system? I thought it transferred the addressing.

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You're still logged in to the first system, where you've got telnet running,
after all!  What you're running is basically a (network-based) terminal
emulator.

You are correct. I logged onto caen from home via my Mac as a host,
with MacPPP, telnetted to MTS, and then back to caen. I was then signed
onto caen twice, and it retreated back through the links when I logged
off each. 

A little while ago I logged onto grex with Telnet, and was entering
this response, and tried to edit it when I was done with pico. I
did not get a clean pico window - in fact, it was a mess, and I had to
hang up to get out of it. Pico runs OK across telnet to other hosts
(caen, e.g.) - why not grex?

(The answer to my question in 5 is that I had used a "dumb" Telnet
terminal emulator, by accident. No vt100 - no pico.)

I would appreciate obtaining from anyone using NCSA Telnet 2.5.1B (or
thereabouts) over MacPPP to the MichNet NAS, a copy of their config.tel
file. I am trying to set up NCSA Telnet because Mosaic calls for that
when one attempts to open Gophers, but its config.tel file is in the
category of an obscure CLI (and the documentation is worse).

I uploaded into /u/srw/config.tel the one I use.
It is a modified version of the sample one that comes with Telnet.
As I recall the changes I made were trivial, but it was a while ago,
and my memory fades.

Thannks, Steve. I'll try it out. I was sent two, after I inquired
on MTS-Confer, but both fail to permit the use of pine on caen. vt100
is specified. There is config.tel and network configuration to worry
about, and I don't know what all the "fine print" means. Maybe by
comparing several, I can construct a workable beast (like, Dr. Frankenstein
did....;-<).

Well, I don't use pine so I have no experience with *that* using NCSA Telnet.
I can probably figure out what the lines of the sample config.tel mean,
if it's not clear to you, so ask.

NCSA Telnet is working for me - with the help of Steve and two others
that donated config.tel files. The problem with pine on caen was a
caen problem! I did have problems with all three sources because 
somewhere in my downloading/copying them, they wordwrapped, and that
tail on the next line became a command. Config.tel files are so full of
small print, it took me a while to find that. Finally I tried mightily
to include Local Echo enablement in the Settings file - but learned that
it is not possible. Now, to see if NCSA Telnet works with Mosaic for
Gophers.

Cool. I'm glad (and a little surprised) that I could help.

How does one telnet into Grex?

Grex's domain name is grex.cyberspace.org, but it is only reachable from 
certain hosts.  You can get in from Merit if you have an authorization code,
but not otherwise.  There are also some other places you can get in from, but
I'm not sure what they are.

You'd be able to telnet in from any host from which you have Internet
access.

Speaking of which - the telnet link this morning off MichNet, is as
good as I've ever seen it. As fast as dialin. My thanks to all that
surmounted the difficulties.

(Indeed.  It's now noon, and the link's still quite fast.)

NCSA Telnet 2.6 is now available. That config.tel file is no more: it is
now all menu/preferences driven. Hallelujah. It was easy to set up.

I'll have to get it. I've been using 2.5 on myMac at work very regularly.
Is there a release for other platforms (DOS Windows, OS/2 NT ? ) -
I assumed you were talking only about the Mac version, as I know you're
a Mac person like me. 

I only follow the mac archives, so I don't know what's available for
DOS or others. I do follow the mac and dos conferences on MTS, and
from them I realize that I do *not* want to struggle with DOS PPP,
if I have MacPPP running. Ver. 2.6 has also replaced the telpass
app with authentication/kerberos (yech!) preferences. I leave my office
Mac on so I can ftp to it, so have telpass running there: figuring
out how to use the new auth/kerb will be the only hurdle to installing
ver. 2.6 on my office machine.

Kerberos is basically a good thing, but I too will have to deal with that,
as I run it as an ftp server on My Mac at work too.

I have encountered a problem, when using NCSA Telent 2.6. It only occurs
when using the pine mailer. Ctrl-C (^C) does *not* cancel a message
that is being written - it seems to act like ^H (erase). This occurs
both here, and with pine on CAEN, so must be a Telnet 2.6 configuration
problem. In the Edit/Preferences/Sessions dialog, "Interrupt" is set to
 ^C. Otherwise, outside pine, ^C works as interrupt.

Hmm. I dunno. I still haven't upgraded from 2.5 - maybe someone else has?

In "Setup Keys" in the "Session" menu, just blank out the "Ctrl-C" that's
already there.  This will, in fact, *enable* Ctrl-C correctly.  Why?  CAEN
told me once a long time ago, but I forgot the reason.  It works.

"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the
fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science."
-Albert Einstein

"Mysterious" isn't an emotion...

Possibly he meant that the *experience* of the mysterious is an emotion.
Possibly this is the result of a bad German-to-English translation.  Possibly
he was too busy being Profound to worry about details like that.

Perhaps _Correct Quotes 1.0_ has a typo.

Does anybody have any good telnet sites to connect to?  Some of the ones
that I have found are "cue.bc.ca", at login type cosy.  Let me know what
ya'll think or have found.

Please define "good".

I have the biggest best list available for bbs's in the internet.  You can get
the list in a number of ways.
1)  Ftp it from far0019.urh.uiuc.edu in the pub/bbs-list directory under the
title book.txt 2)  Or you can send mail to bbslist@far0019.urh.uiuc.edu wiht
the subject ok list  "like this subj:book list" and it will be mailed to your
account So yes, I do know good places to gHconnect to, there are over 100 in
the list and it even include that site of yours (Victoria Cosy)

Telnet to locis.loc.gov to obtain information about Congress.  This is the
Library of Congress Information System (locis) gateway.  It's available to
the Internetting public from 8 A.M to 9 P.M (Eastern time) Monday through
Friday.

There's a wealth of information about Congress, and about the Library of
Congress itself.  Trouble is, it's a pain the the butt to use.  The
interface seems to have been designed in about 1349.  That was a bad year
for a lot of people, what with the Black Death and all, so I suppose one
can forgive sloppy interface construction, but a bit of updating would be
cool.

Nevertheless, if you can fight through the horrid accessing tools, (rotten
sticks) you can find out all sorts of interesting things about the 103rd
and soone to be 104th congress.

well I am having NO luck trying to telnet to a place called Crossroads, also
telnetting to Atlantis if anybody has advice I would really like it. Also I am
going to become a member of Grex would that give me the right to telnet there
from here??

Yes - if you have the right address.

MAC SOFTWARE *WORLD*!!!  mac.archive.umich.edu, login as anonymous with your
address as your password

Well, pezman, I agree that the umich archives are excellent.
Your advice seems oriented toward ftp, though and this is the telnet item.
It's tough to get connected there by ftp. Gopher and http are both available,

lynx gopher://gopher.archive.merit.edu:7055/11/mac

Here's a shameless plug, look at the above address game/card
and see if you can find my "Spider" for the mac. 

What does Spider do?

It is a difficult (but winnable) 2-deck solitaire game.
My Mac version has larger and (dare I say) nicer looking cards than most.
It runs on B&W macs (omni loves it) but you really need a color mac
to get the full effect.

It can be addictive, but I think people familiar with Grex will not
have too much trouble with that aspect of it. Grex is a lot more so.

 Oh, yeah... 100+ games and I still haven't won. It's a realy cool game
even though I doubt it can be won ;)

Does anybody use telnet over DOS/Windows 3.1 PPP?  I would like to know
what seems to work best simulating a vt100/clone.  I am using Trumpet
and it does not work well for getting into GREX bbs.  Thanks...

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