How pull-up list of newsgroups on trn?
When i first joined trn i saw a complete list of newsgroups, but have been
unable to find that file again.  How do?

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At the respond or pass prompt or the OK promt type:

help conf

That should do it (actually it will, I tested it before entering this just
to be sure I was giving good information :-))

The question dealt with newsgroups, not conferences.
I gave up on trying to read news a while back (just too much stuff & too
little of it of interest to me), so I can't answer specifically, but I think
that diligent searching of the online help in trn (and maybe the man as well)
is likely to turn up the answer.  I think I remember seeing something dealing
with this.

All of the newsgroups should be in your .newsrc file.  To view it, type

!page .newsrc

I don't believe that's correct. When trn runs for the first time
it only puts a few newsgroups in your .newsrc. (at least nowadays)

Since Bill's .newsrc only has 12 lines in it, I'm **sure** you're wrong, Dan.
(Um, Bill, I only counted the lines (using wc -l); but if you don't want
people to know what groups you read, you should do  chmod go-r .newsrc
(or !chmod go-r .newsrc  from Picospan).  Just BTW.)

Hmmm.  Well, mine has 2,457 lines in it, with all but a couple of 
newsgroups unsubscribed.  One thing you can do, Bill, is take a look
at mine.  It has most of the newsgroups in it.

btw, a newsgroup is not subscribed to when a "!" appears right after
the name.

And you guys say *my* .newsrc is big...  >8)

Opppps, I'm sorry, but I made an error.  Mine has 2,485 lines.  :)

You can look at /news/lib/active for a full list of newsgroups, but
that doesn't have any descriptions in it.  For a list, with
descriptions, of the "mainstream" groups, check news.announce.newusers.

Opppps?  Ooops.

oppps is an old mnet-ism.

This response has been erased.

And the new (today) announcement that 500+ groups "have been added,"
which I was able to see only once, but that's ok, the groups
weren't listed.
  
I'll check out /news/lib/active for the additions - are the groups
appended to that file, or shuffled into it whilly-nilly?

Appended.

I did notice several (like, 6 or so) duplicate newsgroup names. Is this
a problem? They are scattered through out that really large file. Would
the existance of the same group named twice account for receiving two
copies of some responses?
o

It might ... I assume so.

/news/lib/active no longer seems to have anything much in it, I presume since
we're now getting news through the net.  Is there a way to look for newsgroups
of interest without having to go through them one-by-one, at present?

The way I look for new newsgroups in rn at a "do you want to enter this
newsgroup?" prompt is, 

lfoo<return>

where foo is a search string.  So if you wanted to get a long list of
unsubscribed newsgroups, type lalt or lrec or lcomp or something.  For a
shorter list, try things like lsex, ltv.

There's an nntp command to get the entire active list of newsgroups that
used to be available in /news/lib/active, but I don't remember it.

Please try, there are a few of us who would like to peruse the real
list - thankxx.

OK, I've gotten the active list from an nntp server at the U of M that we
seem to be allowed to use.  The default server, condor, is down, so I'll
have to try that again later.  The file is called
/usr/local/inet/caen-active

To use this news server without touching your .newsrc or the news software
on grex, type at the next prompt, 

!telnet srvr1-e.engin.umich.edu 119

and type help once you're connected.

Thank you, Jeff.

and for those who can't telnet?
  

Apologies for not posting before, but active lists of newsgroups from both
caen and condor are now available.  Use !zmore or !zcat to look at them. 

/usr/local/inet/caen-active.gz /usr/local/inet/active.gz

The address of the caen news server we can use has changed.  Try
 !telnet srvr1.engin.umich.edu 119
at the next prompt.  Tsty, have you tried to do this?  If I'm not mistaken,
non-members are permitted to telnet to port 119 of any host.

you *are* mistaken.

Re #23:kaplan
At the current time, non-members can telnet to the nntp port of
one machine outside grex, and that machine is condor.ic.net. This is
an exception I put in my kernal patch until we get news running on
Grex again. At that time the exception will be removed.

I stand corrected.

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