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Grex Info Item 72: Is there a "twit filter" in the back cupboard somewhere?
Entered by mta on Sun Sep 12 23:39:31 UTC 1993:

Does GREX have a filter so that I can screen responses and items
entered by particular users who seldom contribute meaningfully
and *really* get on my nerves?

If so, what is it and how do I use it?

24 responses total.



#1 of 24 by remmers on Mon Sep 13 00:48:13 1993:

Yes, it's called "skip".  Here are instructions on how to use it,
adapted from the source file:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 *  This program can be used as a PicoSpan pager to eliminate
 *  responses and items by twits.
 *  It requires the use of special rseps and iseps that put a "!user\n"
 *  before each response.  Then just use this program by putting the
 *  following lines into your .cfonce file:

define rsep "!%l\n----\n#%r %a (%l):"
define isep "!%l\nItem %i entered %d by %a (%l)\n %h"
define ishort "!%l\n %3i %h (%l)"
define pager "skip moron bozo etc"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The program was written by Jon Zeeff.

If you normally use the "more" pager to pause output when the screen
fills, you can combine the effect of that and "skip" by doing

  define pager "skip moron bozo remmers | more"



#2 of 24 by robh on Mon Sep 13 01:28:40 1993:

I'd thought it was called "twit".


#3 of 24 by remmers on Mon Sep 13 07:07:32 1993:

It was originally, but we renamed it "skip".


#4 of 24 by chelsea on Mon Sep 13 11:44:43 1993:

Yeah, I remember Skip.  He was a bozo extraordinare.


#5 of 24 by mta on Tue Sep 14 18:40:08 1993:

Thanks ever so much -- this will make GREX pleasant again!


#6 of 24 by jared on Tue Sep 14 23:16:08 1993:

Yeah.. knowing that people just skip your responses just because you
say something stupid once.


#7 of 24 by rcurl on Wed Sep 15 01:17:59 1993:

We'll all just be talking to ourselves - and maybe not even that.


#8 of 24 by remmers on Wed Sep 15 04:04:48 1993:

I include only myself in my twit filter -- I already know what *I* said.


#9 of 24 by rcurl on Wed Sep 15 12:33:21 1993:

I would think you would want to reread it, for the deep pleasure it gives.


#10 of 24 by remmers on Wed Sep 15 22:29:28 1993:

Actually, I reread it for the shallow pleasure it gives.


#11 of 24 by mta on Thu Sep 16 03:58:31 1993:

AWs evidenced by the fact that we got into our third year before I felt
the need for a filter -- it takes lots more than one or two stupid
remarks to really get on my nerves.


#12 of 24 by wh on Thu Sep 23 14:18:01 1993:

Thanks for asking about this, M.T. I wondered if such a program
were possible. I plan to use it. Having been online only about
three months, I guess my intolerance for *consistently* stupid
reremarks (>90%) is only about one-eighth that of yours.

Thanks, Remmers.


#13 of 24 by davel on Thu Sep 23 22:39:57 1993:

Yes.  This is one item that should *definitely* stay here.


#14 of 24 by remmers on Fri Sep 24 02:35:46 1993:

Well, Jon Zeeff wrote the program, so he should get any thanks due.


#15 of 24 by tsty on Mon Sep 27 19:57:29 1993:

There should be a "twit" or "skip" filter on selected chfns also
unless the system chooses to give up before starting.


#16 of 24 by davel on Fri Oct 15 00:01:50 1993:

After playing some more with this thing, I want to add some more information.
It appears that the significant part of the separators that are defined is
the    !%l\n   at the beginning - the filter apparently looks for these and
decides whether to skip according to the login name specified.  But you can
change what information shows in the rest of the headers.  (I happen to want
date & time information which was getting omitted; that's why I started
experimenting.)

One downside of these is that if one of the people on your list to skip enters
a response or an item, you'll still see a message like "1 new of 15 responses
total", followed immediately by the "Respond or pass?" prompt.  Pretty
obviously a filter can't make Picospan skip the prompt; and given that I
guess it shouldn't bother looking ahead enough to suppress the heading.
(It would be nice if this were a Picospan builtin.)


#17 of 24 by bjorn on Thu Dec 5 19:02:09 1996:

To revive this old topic, and using info from a coop session, wouldn't a
program like .yeswrtie sort of be a twit filter?
Erm, yeswrite that is.


#18 of 24 by robh on Thu Dec 5 19:09:37 1996:

Gosh, yes, it would, wouldn't it?  Damn, I wish I'd remembered
this, I could have cited past precedent in that Co-op discussion...


#19 of 24 by bjorn on Fri Dec 6 05:46:39 1996:

That would have been cool.  BTW whatever happened to the .yeswrite/.nowrite
debate?


#20 of 24 by robh on Fri Dec 6 07:44:22 1996:

It was determined that it would probably be a good thing to do,
if someone could program it.  So far, nobody has.


#21 of 24 by davel on Fri Dec 6 11:21:27 1996:

I believe that remmers said he would do it when he got around to it.


#22 of 24 by remmers on Fri Dec 6 13:13:02 1996:

Remmers has partly gotten around to it. I've studied Jan's
"write" code and determined the kinds of modifications I
would make. Corresponded a bit with Jan about it. But the
implementation has been on the back burner for a while.
Given my level of busy-ness right now, I'm not sure when it
will come off. Mid to late January looks like a possibility.
If Jan or someone else is hot to do the project and can get
to it sooner, I would not be offended.


#23 of 24 by bjorn on Sat Dec 7 09:24:54 1996:

Many Thanks for the re-hash, gentlepersons.


#24 of 24 by davel on Sat Dec 7 12:12:15 1996:

Re 18, Rob, I think mention of this did come up in the .yeswrite/.nowrite
discussion in coop.  *Definitely* mail filtering did.

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