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Grex Info Item 54: FULL internet connection?
Entered by raven on Sun Aug 1 17:55:17 UTC 1993:

I get the message when I log in that Grex is considering getting am internet
connection. I assume that means a full internet connection with FTP and
TELNET? If so I fully support the idea, and I would be willing to pay
$10-20 EXTRA a month fir the service. I probably won't be able to make
it to Zingermans tonight, but I give a full internet connection support
if it's discussed.

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#1 of 18 by robh on Mon Aug 2 01:01:30 1993:

There's an item in the Co-op conference where this has been discussed
pretty thoroughly.  The latest is that, at first, it will be a limited
feed, mainly to get Usenet news in.

Come to think of it, I'd probably pay an extra $10 a month for full
Internet access, too.

#2 of 18 by raven on Mon Aug 2 06:04:23 1993:

        Hmm we already get usenet, di we get it indirectley now? Curiuous
minds want to know.

#3 of 18 by davel on Mon Aug 2 10:35:37 1993:

Yes - mju has been uploading it from his machine (mudos, a Unix box despite
the name - nice name for a baby but it grew up, I think).  One reason for
this to come up *now* is that it's going off to school with him in the fall.

#4 of 18 by tsty on Mon Aug 2 16:53:00 1993:

Personally, I think those are two REally fine offers, thankyou. And
actually, it would spread around the support for this progress if,
instead of a surcharge, we could generate about 10 more full year
membreships. 
  
Two very important points though - current thinking (and the concept
of Grex) wouldn't think very favorably of 'surcharges'. We are not
that kind of place. I hope that's obvious. Secondly, there can;t
be any sort of "quid pro quo" about contributing membership support
for the *express* purpose of getting direct Internet connectivity.
  
As we grow, we get more functionality. As we get more functionality,
we grow. Growth ain't free. There are no guarantees, but there +IS+
a tremendous amount of energy and good will 'spent' (as well as
a lot of fun being had) growing Grex. 
  
There could be a circumstance where we get 10 new full year 
memberships (only $60 !!) and this particular Internet attachment
blows up in our face. Not likely at all probably, but, nonetheless
a potentiality. 
  
So the membership dollars get stashed for a rainy day and the next
Internet possibility. You would have contributed to the growth
of Grex, it's viability, (it's breathing room) , and it's future
development and progress. Those considerations are, in and of themselves,
worthy of the increased membership, imnsho.

#5 of 18 by robh on Mon Aug 2 20:45:39 1993:

tsty, I'm certainy aware that membership doesn't guarantee a certain
access level.  I was paying for membership here even before we had our
great big news disk, and I had to sign on every day to have any chance
of reading Usenet.  I "donate" to Grex because it's an honorable
cause, me being the Klingon kind of guy I am.

#6 of 18 by popcorn on Tue Aug 3 02:35:13 1993:

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#7 of 18 by tsty on Sat Aug 7 06:38:37 1993:

robh, by the 5th paragraph, I had thought that "new members" was
clearer than you took it.  Everyone who is and has been a member
has been so because it's the Klingon kind of thing to do. 
 
I'm gently agitating for 10 +new+ members as well as thanking
the current members. Sorry if you took that incorrectly.

#8 of 18 by raven on Thu Sep 9 00:06:50 1993:

        Hmm discussion of an internet connection has dies down at least on
Agora and Info. Whazup?

#9 of 18 by mju on Thu Sep 9 03:55:37 1993:

The hardware level is mostly in place.  We are waiting to get the 3/260
up and running, however, to turn it on, since the Sun-2 is currently
running at saturation and probably couldn't handle the extra load.
(There are also still a few bugs and kinks to be worked out.)

#10 of 18 by cybrspce on Wed Apr 20 08:58:58 1994:

aahhh....it would probably be better if I dont say it ;)  *hugz*

#11 of 18 by remmers on Wed Apr 20 12:05:34 1994:

I'll say it:  We got the bugs and kinks worked out.

#12 of 18 by srw on Thu Apr 21 06:16:21 1994:

This is true. Brenda, you would not believe the old Grex that ran on the 
previous computer. There was no internet link, so all the users were
from right here in Ann Arbor. It had 1/8th of the memory that this one 
has and was much slower.  It was really slow all the time, even with
only 6 people logged on (that's all the dialins we have).

#13 of 18 by davel on Thu Apr 21 10:27:07 1994:

News was a lot faster most of the time, because we had the groups locally.
(But its being downloaded from mudos slowed everything down.  Often a *lot*.)
The system at its fastest was much slower than this machine at its
slowest; and we went through a period, when we were first getting the net
link up, when things would regularly just about die.  Load averages regularly
up in the 30s to 70s.

#14 of 18 by popcorn on Thu Apr 21 11:08:55 1994:

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#15 of 18 by kentn on Thu Apr 21 12:30:04 1994:

I hope we have the Sun 2 bronzed and put on a prominent shelf...   ;)

#16 of 18 by davel on Thu Apr 21 14:13:56 1994:

I never saw it, but I think you'd want a fairly strong shelf.

#17 of 18 by kentn on Thu Apr 21 17:41:47 1994:

I'm sure.

#18 of 18 by omni on Thu Apr 21 19:25:30 1994:

 12 sounds a lot like my old mac.... ;)

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