Grex Info Conference

View Responses

Grex Info Item 290: I need help
Entered by jra on Mon Jul 29 03:30:07 UTC 1996:

Hi,
I'm new in Cyberspace and I'm rather lost. I have also a question:
I'd like to use my e-mail soft to send and receive e-mails from my e-mail box
here. I've been trying to do so and though I've been able to send messages
from my account here I haven't been able to receive the ones I sent here to
test.
I've configured my soft using cyberspace.org as POP3 and SMTP servers;
jra@cyberspace.org (I've also tried with jra@grex.cyberspace.org) and my
password here.
When I send a message using any of those addresses, my e-mail soft connects
here easyly and sends the messages. But when it tries to connect here to
collect my e-mails, it says: 'ERROR: Bad password or maildrop locked'.
Please, can anyone help me? If you can, please answer me here and e-mail me
please at xavir@conexis.es, cause I don't know whether I'll be able to read
the answer here... :-(
At least I'd be very gratefull if I receive an e-mail address of any people
who can help me.
Thanks a lot...
See you,

     Xavier
     Barcelona (SPAIN)
     xavir@conexis.es

11 responses total.

#1 of 11 by robh on Mon Jul 29 04:29:40 1996:

Grex does not run a POP server of any sort, so you cannot read
your Grex mail remotely.  You do need to telnet here and read
it locally.  There's no way around this.

We were concerned that users would think of us as a mail drop,
without taking part in our more community-oriented programs
such as conferences and party.

#2 of 11 by ajax on Mon Jul 29 21:45:28 1996:

A couple other people have asked about this lately, too.  One was
asking because it's been taking him longer to get on Grex to get
his mail lately.  For people in the U.S., I recommend "juno.com"
for free e-mail (http://www.juno.com has details), but you have
to dial up their system directly, rather than use the 'Net.  There
are local numbers for most people in the U.S., but I don't think 
they provide any foreign access.

#3 of 11 by draven on Mon Jul 29 21:50:38 1996:

   Does nether.net have it's newuser program working right now?
If so, that would be a good place for free e-mail.  I has a T3 connection,
so sending and retrieving mail should be quick and painless.

#4 of 11 by popcorn on Mon Jul 29 23:51:29 1996:

This response has been erased.

#5 of 11 by scg on Tue Jul 30 02:18:22 1996:

I just took a look at that.  It's  advertizing itself as a free web based mail
system (I presume using some sort of CGI based mailer).  It looks like they
aren't providing a POP server, but that they can be used as a POP client. 
Their big feature, they say, is that they can be accessed from any computer
with a web browser, without having to configure anything, unlike most POP
mailers that really only work well if the user only reads their mail on one
computer.  That makes sense, I guess.  It's the same reason why I refuse to
use a mailer I can't telnet to.

#6 of 11 by curby on Sun Sep 8 06:55:21 1996:

|   [...] nether.net [...] has a T3 connection [...]

Not that it matters in the least, but Let's reword this a little.
Nether.net seems to share the Merit/CICnet t3 connection to MCInet.
From DNS, it looks like nether.net is owned by, or at least closely
affliliated with CICnet.

I was curious, cause the post seemed to imply that nether.net pays
for it's own T3.  Obviosuly this is wrong, since the government pays
for the above link.   :)

#7 of 11 by ajax on Sun Sep 8 07:33:34 1996:

My understanding is that nether.net is owned by Jared Mauch, who is
employed by CICNet, and CICNet lets him keep it connected directly
to their LAN for free.  CICNet and Merit share a T3 line to MCINet?
Does anyone know where to find a map or description of the major
"backbone(s)" of the Internet?

#8 of 11 by popcorn on Sun Sep 8 13:48:28 1996:

This response has been erased.

#9 of 11 by kentn on Thu Sep 12 03:50:10 1996:

(I'll ask my wife, who works at the UM NOC, and has in the past
maintained their map of networks.  I wouldn't be surprised if
such a map were on the Web somewhere, also.)

#10 of 11 by curby on Mon Sep 30 08:45:19 1996:

Kent, does our wife want to switch jobs?  :)  We are looking for qualified
operations people.  For that matter, if anyone local to AA wants a job,
and feels qualified to work in an operations environment, drop me a line.

Thanks for the clarification on nether.net.  It makes sense now.  I know a
few other people that are using the UMnet FDDI ring for personal
projects...

BTW, I don't know that Merit and CICnet share the same DS3, but it LOOKS
like there is some incestous relationsship going on.  :)

   10  borderx2-fddi-1.WillowSprings.mci.net
   11  merit-michnet-ds3.WillowSprings.mci.net
   12  um-fddi4-0.ann-arbor.cic.net

As far as maps go, you can start off by looking try these:

 (vBNS)  http://www.gov.mci.net/vBNS/network_map.html
 (NAPs)  http://www.merit.edu/nsf.architecture/NAPs.html
 (NAPs) 
http://www.cerf.net/cerfnet/about/interconnects/orig-interconnects.html
 (My personal favorite :)  http://www.ans.net/ANSnet.html
         http://www.merit.edu/michnet/maps/.backbone.html
         http://www.cerf.net/cerfnet/about/T3-map.html
         http://www.bbnplanet.net/backbone.htm

I could not find the MCI or Sprint maps, but I am sure that given a little
more searchign, I could find them.  The first 4 above, and the MCI and
SPRINT networks are probably the most important...

#11 of 11 by scg on Tue Oct 1 06:02:07 1996:

Merit and CICNet share the same DS3.

Response not possible - You must register and login before posting.