password problems
I just tried to log on to the two 9600 lines and my password was refused.
I then logged on as "trouble" and left a message asking for help and a 
temporary password.  After that, I logged onto the 2400 line and no problem.

1.  I wanted the sysop to know I got back on
2.  I have no idea why the 9600 lines rejected my password.  I was careful
     and typed it slowly.
3.  Is there a number I can take for problems such that I can call in and
    get someone on a voice line if I need help?
Thanks

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After my session at 2400 I signed on immediately at 9600 and got on with
out a hitch.  I am certain I gave enough care initially to put the 
password in without error.

(1) What sysop?  >8)

This reminds me of a problem I had one time many moons ago, when I
tried calling another (not Grex) board, typed in my password, and
it *insisted* that that wasn't my correct password.  I created
a new account, left mail for the sysop asking him to help, then went
to do some other things - and discovered that the Z key on my
keyboard wasn't working.  And there was a Z in my password.  And
of course, the system wasn't echoing my password, so I had no idea
it wasn't going through.  D'OH!!!

So maybe it's time for me to drag out that file on how to
clean your keyboard safely...

Robh, Thanks - I'll watch for errors especially in the letters in my
password.

Line noise has definitely been known to take out password recognition.
This seems unlikely (you probably would have noticed, if there were
consistent enough noise to garble several attempts), but I have no
better suggestions.

I too have had keyboard related password problems, and not been able to
explain them at first.  If you're trying to log in and consistently
getting your password rejected, you might try typing in your password in
another window (one that echos), and see whether it echos the whole
password or whether it's missing a character.  When I've had problems like
that, the two quick fixes I've found are to make sure the keyboard is
plugged in all the way, and if that doesn't work to bang on the offending key
until it starts echoing.  The long term solution is to pull the key apart
and clean it.  If you have several keys like that, or if it doesn't
respond to cleaning, then it may be easier to buy a new keyboard.

Hm.  Neat idea, Steve - switch to half-duplex long enough to enter your
password.

I should also mention that if you're going to type out your password in
such a way that it echos, you shouldn't do it with somebody looking over
your shoulder.

i have had problems "ftping" into grex, it is rejecting my password
anyone else having this problem ?

I had this problem too, until I ftp'ed to
ftp.cyberspace.org, not grex.cyberspace.org or cyberspace.org.
That seemed to clear things up.

(Not that I needed to ftp anything, since Grex is the only system
I call, but I wanted to find out why it wouldn't work for
anyone else...)

I use the Mac ftp client Fetch, and with it Grex accepted the host name
cyberspace.org. The only problem I had was specifying the full directory
path: it would not permit entry at a higher directory level (though this
may have been due to the perms on higher directories). Rob, one might want
to ftp files to/from your or other directories: I was downloading
figlet-faq. 

Oh, I know, but since I only ever call grex, I personally
would only ever ftp files from Grex to Grex, which could just
as easily be done with the cp command.

You would'nt mind X-plaining the "cp compand" would you,
appreciate help.

You use the cp command when you want to copy one file to another directory.

You would use it in the same format as DOS 'copy example.exe c:\example

Exept for unix it would be   'cp example.exe \example'
Hope that helps.

Make that     cp example.exe /u/yourusername/example   or something like
that.  The backslash won't work, and you (hopefully) don't have rights
to put stuff under the root that way.

John, in general, you can get an online explanation of most any Unix command
by running a program called man (for "manual).  For example,
man cp
(or     !man cp    if you're running it from an Ok: or Respond-or-pass:
prompt).

Yes, I'm sorry. I meant a forward slash.
I have never had to put /u/peacefrg though unless I'm putting something
in my root dir.

Trying to speak DOS in a Unix environment is a bad idea.  >8)

Yeah I noticed.

BTW: Speaking of Dos -> Unix
What is the Unix similar command to   copy con <filename>.bat?

cat > filename

(Terminated with your EOF character - commonly ^D, almost never ^Z - and
followed by a chmod to give you execute access to the file you created.)

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And what is a batch file? I mean if I make a program with cat
will it automatically run when I enter it? Or will it just
print up on the screen?

What Steve gave you was a way to create a file using cat (analogous to using
COPY under DOS in your example).  There's no extension such as .BAT for shell
scripts ("batch programs") under Unix; however:
- your script needs to be a valid Unix shell script (program) for whatever
  shell is going to execute it, not a collection of MS-DOS commands.
- for your script to be executed, the person running it must have
  execute (and read) access to the script.  Hence my mention of chmod.
A shell is more or less the equivalent of COMMAND.COM under DOS.  Under DOS,
that's normally the only command-line interpreter available.  Under Unix,
there are a bunch (sh, csh, tcsh, bash are here - I don't think ksh is but
I could be wrong).  You can put a special line at the beginning of a script
to specify what shell should run it; I believe it will run under sh if you
don't do so.

(The syntax of all these shells varies, so which shell executes your script
is important.  However, many (most!) Unix commands are programs, and in general
a program won't care what shell calls it.)

Cool, we should start a unix conf. I would love to learn how to write
scripts and stuff. It's so interesting. Thatnks dave.

The jellyware conference would be appropriate for talking about things
like that.

Right.  Jellyware *is* the Unix conference (plus other programming-related
stuff, lots of it, & a vast amount of other related miscellany).

You can type   j unix   to get there, even.

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