I'm a brand new user and having a teeny bit of trouble with unix
the old sys I was on already had defaults taken care of.  I want
to use elm, but I get a message that says I need 14 rows in my
window.  How do I change this default so I can use elm?

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better yet, is it possible to use pine from this account?

Yes. Enter     pine      .

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funnny pine didn't work the first time... I see now this is
pine 3.07.  How often is this updated?  The sys I just got off
was running the [vastly superior] pine 3.91 which haaad a built
in news reader...

weirdal - First of all, love your loginid.  >8)

Second, neither Elm nor Pine will work if your terminal is
set incorrectly, which might be the reason you got that
error message.  If you're telnetting in from somewhere
else, make sure the other system knows that you're using
vt100 or vt220 or whatever.  This will often take care
of the problem by itself.

Re 4: pine 3.91 is "newpine" (probably until we find out if it is
bug-free enough to replace 3.07).  And, for the nonce, Usenet news
is shut off on Grex, so pine's newsreading capabilities won't be
of much use (unless you're into nntp and have a lot of spare time).

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shortcut for #3 - remmers did some magic and somply    rows xx  or
columns xx  does the trick. Prepend a bang (!) if you are not at
a shell prompt.

I use pine -z, so have aliases here and there (in .cshrc and .cfonce). Is
the name newpine going to be changed to pine sometime soon, in which case
I'll just wait, or is newpine going to be the permanent name, and I should
edit my aliases? 

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Re #8:  Not really magic.  Just another silly software shortcut from
the department of redundancy department.  (I'm considering deleting
them...)

it's too nice of a shortcut for you to go to the trouble of
eliminating it, imo.

that means - - -  i use it a lot, changing machines and screens
every couple of days, and with different people i help.

Oh, well if it's got an established user base, I suppose it should
stay around.  (Just like the archaic Fortran language... :)

Hey, FORTRAN is fun...especially when you don't have a C compiler

(It's also improved over what it used to be.  You can actually do
half-way decent structured programming in it now.  My comment in #14
was halfway facetious.  But the main reason Fortran has survived is
because of the vast installed base of Fortran software that's out
there, not because of its merits as a language.)

(Agreed)

(How could you say that and not mention COBOL?)

Is it possible to make newuser set the users terminal type to whatever
they enter on their first login, as well?  (That is, whenever we get
newuser code back.  8*)

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Isn't it possible to store the newuser code on a partition other than 
the one that is losing the files?  Someone said that the partition 
on which the conferences are stored has a lot of spare room.  Could a 
copy of the code be kept there?  At least for editing purposes?  

Setting the terminal type should only require putting one or two lines
of code in, right? 

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