I just got a new computer, and neither set of arrow keys works in
pico editing.  Anyone have any ideas?  Also- i can't find anyplace
to specify word wrap, and I'm losing the right side.
Is this something I can fix, or do I have to learn to liive with it?

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What are you running for terminal emulation?  What is it emulating?  What
is your TERM set to here on Grex?  Are there any symptoms to the arrow
keys not working?  (Sometimes, BTW, there's some sort of key that turns
cursor-key functions on & off - my present keyboard has one labeled "Cursr
Pad", for example.)  We really need more information.  How do I know, for
instance, whether it will help you if I mention that in my present emulator
I set line wrap by doing alt-S to get Setup, choose Terminal Setup, and
choose Line Wrap & toggle it to ON - unless I know whether you're using
Procomm?  (And in the PCPLUS version of Procomm, if I recall, setting the
line length also affected how wrapping worked.)  The arrow keys could be
a hardware problem, or a hardware setting, or an emulator setting, or a
mismatch between what you're emulating & what Grex thinks you are.

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Yea Dave, you should!

OK.  I'll specify some stuff.  I'm running COMit out of windows 3.1
I have it set to ANSI, but I can't see any of the ansi stuff in item 
116.  I have set 25 rows and 80 columns.  I can't find out any way to
turn on wrap within COMit, and I can't see color here either.
Is there a color command on grex?  I get color on muds, but it
just looks like ascii graphics in color.  Is this what it's supposed
to look like?  If anyone wants to check my .login (which looks like
it got garbled somehow), please feel free.
I appreciate any help :)

Brenda, your .login looks fine to me, though I'm certainly no csh guru.
And I personally have never heard of COMit, so I'm not going to
be much help.

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Kermit is free, but apparently not freely distributable; Columbia U
has just requested that MS-Kermit be removed from the SimTel archives,
and Keith Petersen has complied.  Blah.

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I think the problem with SimTel is that they put the archives in
CD form and sell it to support the archive.

You're probably right, but it seems kind of extreme in view of the tiny
fraction of the archives relating to kermit.  If I were Columbia, I'd
feel that most *anything* I could do to get people to not bug me for
copies of kermit was pure gain.

Oh well.

I think it is a matter of principle on Columbia's part.
Their ftp server is watsun.cc.columbia.edu

I think it is a clash of principles between SimTel and Columbia.  It
is certainly Columbia's right as copyright-holder to specify how Kermit
gets distributed; however, watsun.cc.columbia.edu is an ill-organized
and relatively small (in ftp connections) site compared to SimTel and
garbo.uwasa.fi (another large site that has removed Kermit in the last
day or so) and all their mirrors.
  I wish Columbia could work out some arrangement with the other sites
(their license does allow for negotiated rights to distribute in other
ways).  Hopefully that's what will happen, although right now, both
sides seem to be doing a bit of posturing and CYA'ing.

To find MS-DOS Kermit at watsun, ftp to watsun.cc.columbia.edu, login as
anonymous or ftp, give your e-mail address as your password, cd to
the kermit/bin directory.  You might want to grab the file READ.ME;
it explains the contents of the directory.  If you just want the latest
MS-DOS binary, set the ftp program for binary transfer (ftp> bin) and
get msvibm.zip.

There are other Kermit versions (e.g. for other machines and operating
systems there as well (including Windoze, OS/2, Mac, VMS and Unix).

I just ftp'd 4 ms-dos kermits plus a readme portion that describes
what each file name does.
 
Should I put them somewhere particular, for general downloading,
or just use them myself and let perns shift for themselves?
  
If some root-type would create a Kermit subdirectory somewhere,
I'll be glad to move all 5 files over there. I'm just a user-type.

Yes, could someone create a subdirectory for kermit? I am looking
for any recent version of mskermit and am having trouble downloading
it through Michnet. If we could just put a couple of the more widely
used versions in it, it probably wouldn't take up too much space.
Say, mskermit v3.13 and the latest Mackermit.

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Kermit 3.14 for MS-DOS is out now, but in Beta test.  If you're
not into locked up/reboot/cuss out the computer sort of comm program
usage, I'd wait a while until Columbia makes all the bug fixes and
issues a better (non-Beta) release of 3.14.  (At the moment, the
bug fixes are being announced almost daily, so 3.14 is a dynamic
program...)
 
MS-DOS Kermit 3.13 is the best bet at the moment.

Re #14. I was able to download Mskermit 3.13 after a couple more
tries. But I think it would be good to keep something available
here for people not into Internet.

A small download area, limited to things that directly help people
access Grex, might be a good idea.

Fwiw, I would much prefer to mv the Kermit stuff off my directory
space, for more reasons than the simple space reason.
 
I believe that Grex would be well advised if there were an area
which contained public domain downloadable files, telix, kermit,
maybe a mac/ibm wordprocessor, some utilities. Nothing fancy, but
validly functional.

That would be a public on-line software library. It would be a real
service. Especially if it were very selective for the *best* stuff,
and not another junk box.

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