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Grex Info Item 172: Problem posting to usenet
Entered by raven on Wed Aug 10 21:59:09 UTC 1994:

        I had a problem posting to usenet this evening. I got the following
error message:
        
        Check spelling, Send, Abort, Edit, or List? Send
Can't send article to the server:
        441 400 loadav [innwatch:hiload] 2035 gt 2000
(Article not posted.)
Article appended to /u/raven/dead.article
A copy may be temporarily found in /u/raven/.article


        I assume it has something to do with load average by the looks of the
error, and by the fact there were 45 users on when I last checked.

25 responses total.



#1 of 25 by tsty on Thu Aug 11 12:39:49 1994:

I had that identical problem, but iwth different [innwatch:hiload] 2035 gt 2000
 numbers here - it happened twice - but later I was able to get the file posted
sucessfully (well, no "failure" diagnostic, anyway.)

I emailed staff with the glitch and asked "why?," how to prevent, etc.
  
Oh, I was invoking   inews -h  fylename, which doesn't give the
          Check spelling, Send, Abort, Edit, or List? Send   opportunity.
  
A bit later ( and MUCH to my +dismay+ and *surprise*) there were THREE
identical articles posted to Usenet!!!!!  **OUCH**
  
Guess I'm glad I'm in good company .... 


#2 of 25 by popcorn on Sat Aug 13 12:29:00 1994:

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#3 of 25 by carson on Mon Aug 22 07:05:03 1994:

(I didn't see it when it was posted.)

(oh, you mean the PROBLEM!)


#4 of 25 by davel on Mon Aug 22 10:17:53 1994:

I haven't seen this (& don't post to news very often), but I've seen
some pretty high load averages lately.  Sounds as if maybe Pnews
checks that and aborts if the system is so loaded as to make posting
a problem - just by what the message said.


#5 of 25 by tsty on Mon Sep 5 07:30:13 1994:

Because there ended up to be three (ouch!) postings of the
identical stuff, each with really different time stamps, I am
going to hold the opinion that the two "cancelled" postings were
simply postponed and the third (which did work) was the third!
  
Both root and I got some net-flames because of that triple-play and
at least one answer said that 'grex had a glitch, sorry.'
 
Maybe there is no actual connection between two declared failures
one delcared success which result in three separate postings, but
i'mnot gonna bet on that for a while. comment?


#6 of 25 by tsty on Mon Sep 12 19:11:47 1994:

any other comments on possibilities, or realities?


#7 of 25 by kdietr01 on Sat Sep 17 12:20:06 1994:

Speaking of probs posting to usenet:
I'm getting Pnews not found errors. Has it been temp. removed?
Any help would be appreciated.


#8 of 25 by robh on Sat Sep 17 12:32:33 1994:

Yes, I noticed this a few weeks ago, and sent mail to staff.
I never got any response.


#9 of 25 by popcorn on Sat Sep 17 12:37:47 1994:

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#10 of 25 by robh on Sat Sep 17 13:25:41 1994:

Well, I don't read the hated Agora conference, so I would never
have seen it there.

Thanks for finally answering, popcorn!


#11 of 25 by popcorn on Sat Sep 17 16:23:34 1994:

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#12 of 25 by srw on Sun Sep 18 06:22:44 1994:

If you ever don't get a response from mail sent to staff, please try
again. No one will think you're being pushy. You're entitled to a response.
(Sometimes we let them drop through the cracks - it's never intentional.)


#13 of 25 by tsty on Sun Sep 18 08:10:36 1994:

Pnews is in MY directory and it works just fine - - (found it) - - BUT it
also relies on   Inews, which I don't have. So not ALL of the usenet
software needs to be re-made, just Inews.
  
Certainly would appreciate the re-make of Inews ..... I was actually
beginning to make an "existance" out there (not a life though).
  
  /home/tsty/bin/Pnews
  
14 -rwxr-xr-x   1 tsty     people      13347 Sep 18 04:09 Pnews* 
  


#14 of 25 by raven on Fri Sep 30 03:31:26 1994:

        My pnew must have been munched also.  If someone could restore it I
would appreciate it.  This is the message I got when I tried to post:

        (leaving cbreak mode; cwd=/home/raven)
Invoking command: QUOTECHARS='>' Pnews -h /u/raven/.rnhead

/bin/sh: Pnews: not found

(re-entering cbreak mode)


#15 of 25 by rcurl on Fri Sep 30 06:32:37 1994:

It got munched in the recent disk problems. Its been put on the list
of things to restore.


#16 of 25 by srw on Fri Sep 30 06:34:27 1994:

Some staff members were talking about this Wednesday night.
We know that it needs recovering. Someone has to go out to the warehouse
and fiddle with tapes to get it restored. It should happen soon.


#17 of 25 by raven on Thu Oct 6 22:21:38 1994:

        Latest problem, when I run TRN I get this message:
                Couldn't get name of news server from
                /usr/local/news/nntpserver
Either fix this file, or put NNTPSERVER in your environment.


#18 of 25 by robh on Thu Oct 6 23:01:59 1994:

Apparently yet another of Grex' files has been lost, this one
onvolves the local news server.  Since I use an off-site server,
I didn't even notice until someone else asked me why Usenet
wouldn't work.  "I don't know, it's working fine for me."  >8)


#19 of 25 by popcorn on Fri Oct 7 20:57:51 1994:

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#20 of 25 by popcorn on Fri Oct 7 20:58:55 1994:

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#21 of 25 by raven on Wed Oct 19 01:37:05 1994:

I still can't post to usenet.  I got the following error message:
 
 Check spelling, Send, Abort, Edit, or List? Send
 Can't send article to the server:
         441 400 No space (spool) [innwatch:32] 7770 lt 8000
 (Article not posted.)
[Also posted to system problems :-)]


#22 of 25 by popcorn on Wed Oct 19 12:25:15 1994:

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#23 of 25 by tsty on Fri Nov 4 03:37:14 1994:

is News working again, in spite ofthe motd?????


#24 of 25 by popcorn on Fri Nov 4 13:08:00 1994:

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#25 of 25 by tsty on Sun Nov 6 07:56:00 1994:

becasue of the implications and presumptions that resulted int
response #22 which answers #21, is why.

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