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Grex Info Item 154: completing internet addresses
Entered by carson on Wed Jun 15 05:46:56 UTC 1994:

(how does one go about finding interent addresses without knowing the
suffix? I've seen a lot of people telnetting into Grex from various
places, and I'd like to check some of them out, but the "who" command cuts
off the last few characters, leaving me with only a partial internet
address. Help!)

14 responses total.

#1 of 14 by mju on Wed Jun 15 15:47:33 1994:

Sometimes you can guess at them.  Otherwise, look at /var/log/tcplog,
which has the full version of the address.

#2 of 14 by carson on Tue Jun 28 19:14:32 1994:

(the file mentioned above is currently unreadable. What I mean is that I
get a "Permission denied" message when I try to put it through pager. Is
this a temporary problem? I've found the file very useful for finding
complete internet addresses.)

#3 of 14 by mju on Wed Jun 29 05:23:18 1994:

No, it's not a temporary problem.  The logfiles in /var/log can
have sensitive or private information in them, and it was
judged a security hole to leave them publically readable.  I'll
have to think about whether tcplog specifically is one that
we can leave available, but we have no immediate plans to make
them available again.

#4 of 14 by kentn on Wed Jun 29 05:33:37 1994:

Um, I didn't see that decision mentioned anywhere before (maybe I
missed it).  Is there a policy about posting such system changes
(assuming nothing will be "given away" in terms of security)?
Is there an item (in coop, maybe) where such "log entries" are
kept?  Should there be such an item (non-discussion, maybe)?

#5 of 14 by chelsea on Wed Jun 29 14:29:24 1994:

There is an item in the Staff Conference, "What I did today", where
stuff like that gets entered.  But only staff and Board has access
to the Staff conference.

#6 of 14 by carson on Wed Jun 29 14:44:18 1994:

<sigh>

(since I'm still looking to find complete internet addresses, is there
another direction I can be pointed? For example, is there a gopher or web
host that can make address searches based on the beginning of a name
rather than working one's way from the end?)

#7 of 14 by mju on Wed Jun 29 18:17:49 1994:

The reason it wasn't announced before hand is because the decision 
went more or less along the lines of, "Oh, shit, I just realized
that people's passwords are in this logfile.  <chmod 640 logfile>"

#8 of 14 by kentn on Wed Jun 29 19:38:33 1994:

So, basically, there's no policy about posting system changes,
nor any publicly accessible place to find out about them...
I'm asking if this should change...

#9 of 14 by carson on Wed Jun 29 19:42:30 1994:

(actually, some of the system changes have been announced in the Agora
announcements item. Probably the biggest obstacle to staff reporting is
MANPOWER.)

#10 of 14 by mju on Wed Jun 29 19:55:36 1994:

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#11 of 14 by brenda on Thu Jun 30 00:07:47 1994:

my guess would be to mail the person who was telnetting there and ask them what
the address was- If it's something they don't want you to know (I wouldn't
knowwhy)  I'm sure they would tell you.

#12 of 14 by tsty on Sat Jul 9 11:37:49 1994:

re #7 - I would support the reaction indicated in #7 as being
sufficiently time-sensitive so as to preclude the necessity for
much discussion.

#13 of 14 by tsty on Tue Jul 12 07:28:06 1994:

But not sitting on it for too long. Can there be a separation so that
passwds aren't retrievable?

#14 of 14 by popcorn on Tue Jul 12 11:38:08 1994:

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