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Grex Info Item 144: HELP ME WITH PARTY NOW!
Entered by none on Wed May 11 23:53:34 UTC 1994:

How do you make a private channel on Party

17 responses total.



#1 of 17 by vishnu on Thu May 12 03:05:38 1994:

I believe I can answer this.  If I'm not mistaken...

The private channel function was not installed 
during the new party thing so you can't.  Or 
else i'm wrong. 


#2 of 17 by popcorn on Thu May 12 03:21:48 1994:

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#3 of 17 by carson on Thu May 12 06:38:33 1994:

(and there was discussion about whether private channels should be
installed. If I remember correctly, the discussion was inconclusive.)


#4 of 17 by vishnu on Thu May 12 11:37:59 1994:

I don't think they should be installed, personally.


#5 of 17 by carson on Thu May 12 16:15:01 1994:

(I think they should.)


#6 of 17 by vidar on Thu May 12 20:07:11 1994:

It would provide for more personalised conversations, at least.  I'm not
sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing/


#7 of 17 by popcorn on Sat May 14 01:55:00 1994:

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#8 of 17 by carson on Sat May 14 06:56:29 1994:

(I guess we should continue the discussion of such again...)


#9 of 17 by kentn on Fri May 27 23:20:32 1994:

I'd like a little help with party, also.  Here's a bit of 'w' output:

User     tty       login@  idle   JCPU   PCPU  what
userid   ttyp8     7:00pm            5      1  party over here,fuck you over th

I mostly see this sort of phenomenon connected with people running
party which is why I'm bringing it up here.  How are people changing
the "what" field?  If it's how I'd do it, with execl, the compiled and
stripped C executable takes up 16K of disk space.   Given that we are
quite often running the ragged edge of a full disk, I'm hoping that
changing the party name in this case is not taking up 16K of valuable
disk space just to post a message so 'who' and 'w' will show it to the
world.
  And really, if you're going to post a message this way, make it a
plug for more disk space...


#10 of 17 by robh on Sat May 28 00:37:03 1994:

Kent, you're overanalyzing.  I just entered the command:

        party out of bounds

and that's exactly what it said when others ran the w
command.  Remember, it displays what your command line
was, not what the computer is running.  Or something
like that.  Anyway, execl is not involved here.

(So who's to blame when parties get out of bounds?)


#11 of 17 by kentn on Sat May 28 01:15:30 1994:

Well, that's why I asked how it was done, robh.  Given that our disk
space is continually at rock bottom, I'd prefer if more people than
myself would over-analyze (if that's what it really is) their and
other's public disk usage to see if we can all be more responsible
about it.  Obviously, this isn't a major waste if it's part of the
party program, but I'd never know unless I asked.  
  That, and you can see that even extremely small C programs compile
into a big waste of disk space at times.  If someone can tell me how
to cut the executable size of a five line (including one include
stdio statement, two lines with curly braces, and a main statement)
program, that'd be neat.  But then posting a problem like this on
Grex is apprently not the place to expect such consideration, since
it's "over-analyzing".  set sarcasm=off for you who don't know it
when you read it.


#12 of 17 by remmers on Sat May 28 10:27:31 1994:

Re #11, 1st paragraph:  It's not part of the party program, it's the
way the "w" command works.  But either way, there's no impact on disk
space.

Re #12, 2nd paragraph:  You can cut the size of an executable file
somewhat with the command "strip filename" -- this removes symbolic
debugging information from the file.  But even after stripping, the
minimum size of an executable file for a C program is pretty big,
comparatively speaking, because of all the runtime support code that's
linked into it.


#13 of 17 by popcorn on Sat May 28 11:44:22 1994:

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#14 of 17 by carson on Sun May 29 04:30:09 1994:

(how much diskspace would removing party free up?)


#15 of 17 by popcorn on Sun May 29 05:46:45 1994:

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#16 of 17 by orinoco on Sat Mar 4 22:09:38 1995:

gnu party problem---how can i make my own private party channel, like harvard
and superman are---one w/my own noise file n' stuff....


#17 of 17 by popcorn on Sun Mar 5 12:56:10 1995:

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