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Grex Inbetween Item 16: why don't you want to be a kid again?
Entered by carson on Wed Jan 4 17:36:23 UTC 1995:

what's so great about being an adult, anyway?

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#1 of 84 by carson on Wed Jan 4 17:38:10 1995:

being able to drive.
choosing my own bedtime.
having my own phone.
not having a curfew.
being able to go to the movies without a parent/guardian.
cooking.


#2 of 84 by tsty on Wed Jan 4 19:06:01 1995:

heh


#3 of 84 by gerund on Wed Jan 4 19:08:27 1995:

ain't nothing i can thienk of right now good about being an adult


#4 of 84 by fraizer on Wed Jan 4 20:51:49 1995:

'Cause I couldn't be a Toys R Us Kid!


#5 of 84 by rywfol on Thu Jan 5 00:47:01 1995:

If I were a kid again, the age difference between me and my fiancee would just
be too much..... I'll stick where I am agewise thanks.. ;)


#6 of 84 by popcorn on Thu Jan 5 02:28:43 1995:

The stuff Carson mentioned is definitely good stuff.  Also, I had very
few friends when I was a kid.  Other kids picked on me a lot.  Being an
adult is MUCH better!  I wouldn't want to go back.


#7 of 84 by steve on Thu Jan 5 02:28:55 1995:

   I'm surprised no one has mentioned sex.  Probably the greatest reason
to not want to be a kid anymore is that as you get older, you have a better
sense of the world.  No child can appreciate the beauty of the universe
as adults can.  That goes for most other enjoyable pursuits too.


#8 of 84 by peacefrg on Thu Jan 5 05:37:15 1995:

Being an Adult is both cool and uncool. I don't like the responsibilties,
but I like the freedom. I guess you have to take the good with the bad.
But I realize now that...BILLS SUCK!!!


#9 of 84 by kentn on Thu Jan 5 05:44:27 1995:

Freedom?  Hmmm...I wonder why I feel like a slave for the IRS, then...


#10 of 84 by other on Thu Jan 5 06:09:25 1995:

Freedom IS responsibility, like it or not. Without responsibility, there
can only be the illusion of freedom.  Just like the U.S. today: decreasing
personal responsibility, decreasing freedom, yet we maintain the illusion...


#11 of 84 by gerund on Thu Jan 5 14:04:55 1995:

re #7- No adult can appreciate the beauty of the universe as
children can.


#12 of 84 by simcha on Thu Jan 5 18:38:54 1995:

Let's see, why don't I want to be a kid?  As an adult I can...
    Commute to/from work
     Work
     Do the shopping
    Pay the bills
    Make dinner
    Change diapers
    Make tomorrow's lunches

OTOH, as a kid, I couldn't collaps into bed with my wonderful, loving
   hubby, kiss my kids, and make my own choices on most everything.


I'd never trade!


#13 of 84 by kt8k on Thu Jan 5 22:50:00 1995:

control and choice - of my life style, my attitudes, my partners, etc.
sex!
ever-improving understanding of things and opportunities to grow & enjoy
    life.  being an adult is great, as long as I take responsibility
    and control, empowering myself instead of being a "victim"


#14 of 84 by other on Thu Jan 5 23:23:57 1995:

re#11: AND no childcan appreciate the beauty of the universe as adults can.


#15 of 84 by tnt on Thu Jan 5 23:50:37 1995:

 But Steve, as an adult, sex controls your life!  As a child, it is just
something you occasionally talk about.


P.S.  See ya at the SAA meeting tonight.


#16 of 84 by chelsea on Fri Jan 6 00:08:12 1995:

As an adult I can own private time and space.


#17 of 84 by simcha on Fri Jan 6 16:13:01 1995:

re #16:  Mary, I haven't had private time or space since my 1st kid was
born and even the bathroom became a high traffic area!
(Actually, I am blessed with a private office at work.  Otherwise, I'd
have to count the commute as "my private time!!")


#18 of 84 by scg on Sat Jan 7 01:28:39 1995:

Agora 42 is linked to InBetween 16.


#19 of 84 by face on Sat Jan 7 04:46:52 1995:

Contrary to what steve said, I think that kids have a much better understand-
ing of things.
They don't over analyze
They don't prejudge
They don't bother it if it doesn't bother them
They are curious
They give a damn


#20 of 84 by crisper on Sat Jan 7 05:05:39 1995:

re:19 possible should be in the next item...
Kids say the darnd'est things...


#21 of 84 by steve on Sat Jan 7 05:34:41 1995:

   Kids have a more pure sense of wonder about things, yes, but I still
maintain that no child (or very rarey) can appreciate things the way an
adult can.  They simply don't have the experience with which to gauge
things.


#22 of 84 by other on Sat Jan 7 08:04:36 1995:

Achild's wonder is at the newness and surface beauty, an adult's wonder is
at the inner beauty, the complexity, and the surface beauty.


#23 of 84 by loulou on Sat Jan 7 23:53:22 1995:

its interesting that some of you use the words freedom,choice, control.
would most of us choose to work if we really had a choice? i doubt it.
Jim Morrison said it well..."i give away my hours for a hand full of 
dimes" i dont think there is much about conventional adulthood which is 
worth it. atleast when you are  a child conforming to the norm isnt
expected as much.


#24 of 84 by chelsea on Sun Jan 8 01:58:13 1995:

I have made the choice to work even when I didn't have to.
And the day I retire will be bitter-sweet indeed.  It is in
being productive and involved with life that I *gain* control
and independence.


#25 of 84 by lynne on Sun Jan 8 01:59:15 1995:

I had a tough time as a child, and I really didn't like myself that much.
Now that I'm older, I have a say in the kind of person I am, and a much
better idea of the kind of person I want to be.  :)


#26 of 84 by alfee on Sun Jan 8 02:20:59 1995:

I like the freedom of choice I have as an adult, and the responsibility of
living with the decisions I make as a built-in system of checks and
balances.  I felt capable of doing this as a child, but was seldom allowed
to try it out.  I also like the independence that comes with it.


#27 of 84 by rcurl on Sun Jan 8 05:15:09 1995:

Even fewer people would take me seriously.


#28 of 84 by eeyore on Sun Jan 8 23:22:30 1995:

i wish that there were some way to combine the two.

i miss the sweetness and inocence of childhood.

i'm glad that i'm through with the pain of trying to like myself.  :)


#29 of 84 by gerund on Mon Jan 9 00:49:20 1995:

So... trying to get through the pain of hating yourself then?
hmm... that's a novel idea.
I think grwing up is simply figuring ways to maintain as much
innocence as one can, along with dealing with whatever innocence is
lost.


#30 of 84 by peacefrg on Mon Jan 9 03:02:40 1995:

Megan, just be a kid now. It's not that hard.

<peacefrg skips and jumps down the sidewalk chewin' gum and whistlin' dixie>


#31 of 84 by mta on Mon Jan 9 03:53:05 1995:

There was nothing particularly sweet or innocent about my childhood.
It was a horrid time of being abused, frightened anfd pushed around.  
I contended with people telling me awful lies about myself and the world.
I struggled in vain to be a "good enough" little girl so people would
be nice to me.

As an adult I have any warm friends, a beautiful family, a fun and
rewarding job, a lovely home with a warm and loving life partne.  I
have a pretty good grasp on who I am and what the world is about.

Nope, I wouldn't be a kid again for anything.  Being an adult is tough.
Being a kid is hell.



#32 of 84 by peacefrg on Mon Jan 9 04:51:27 1995:

I love to still be a kid...But I agree with mta. I wouldn't want to
live my childhood again. It sounds like we grew up in the same
kind of circumstances.


#33 of 84 by gerund on Mon Jan 9 05:18:27 1995:

Being a kid WAS hell... but
what about when it just stays with you...what about
when being an adult is no better?


#34 of 84 by face on Mon Jan 9 05:40:40 1995:

Then your not trying hard enough.

I was lied to a lot as a kid. I still am a id, and I don't enjoy, it, but I
have afeeling that when I grow up I'll like it even less. In the words of Tom
Waits:

Soome folks turn into things
that they'd never want
the only thing to live for is today
I don't wanna have to shout it out
I don't wanna have my hair fall out
I don't wanna be filled with doubt
I don't wanna be a good boy scout
I don't wanna have to learn to count
I don't wanna have the biggest amount
Well I see my parents fight
They go out and get drunk all night
I'd rather stay here in my room
nothin out there but sad and gloom
I don't wanna live ina big old tomb
I DON'T WANNA GROW UP!


#35 of 84 by gerund on Mon Jan 9 06:06:10 1995:

I'm not trying hard enough?
Since WHEN was it my fault?


#36 of 84 by tnt on Mon Jan 9 06:06:48 1995:

 Since the beginning of time.


#37 of 84 by gerund on Mon Jan 9 08:06:53 1995:

figures


#38 of 84 by eeyore on Mon Jan 9 15:25:02 1995:

i had no self-image problems until i moved to ann arbor, and was basically
told that i couldn't fit in because i was ugly...that'll give you problems
really qucik!  i fianally got over them in jr. high, when it suddenly 
occured to me that i didn't give a flying fuck what the other people thought..
it's my life...i'm going to live it the way i want to, not the way others
want me to.  now, i don't even care how i look...execpt in photos...sorry
but i don't do photos...:)


#39 of 84 by peacefrg on Mon Jan 9 23:15:37 1995:

<singing> I don't wanta grow up, I'm a toys r us kid


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