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Jim has read that married couples have the most disagreements, in this order, on money (earning and spending), family and children (depending on which you spent the most time with). Can grexers tell us what they consider to be the most common areas of conflict in couples (married or not, homo- or heterosexual) who are living together (not just temporary roommates)? Please list the five or so greatest areas of discord in your relationship. And maybe also a few of the lesser areas if they are interesting. He says this is by frequency, not severity. (Hoping to see this linked to femme.) He expects to find totally different items and rankings from the national average. It would also be interesting to compare the responses from both members of a couple.
32 responses total.
1. Money 2. How often we see each other 3. Housekeeping (I like things neat...she is a SLOB) 4. Sex (how frequent, day or night, yada yada yada) 5. Personality - this includes the little quirks that annoy the other person...I don't want to list things because everyone knows what I mean
Oops... she=he, but the same was true when I lived with Rachael. Funny how a typo can make a *huge* difference in meaning. =)
Housekeeping and decorating How to spend time together (his friends and hobbies or mine) Housekeeping! money Housekeeping... ;)
"...*huge* difference in meaning"? What difference? This item is about relationships, not birth control failures.
We spend close to all our time together and don't like to spend money, so those are not problems. 1. Communication (has to do with Jim's dyslexia, but we spend a lot of time arguing over the meaning of what I said, or the fact that he did not hear it) 2. Possessions/projects - too many projects coming in, too few going out, stuff in the way all over all the floors and tables and ..... (again, this has to do with a learning disability and genetic lack of organization) This is not exactly housekeeping but rather trying to keep things out of the house. 3. We are too busy to worry about how we spend our time or with whom. Trying to keep up with the equivalent of at least three full-time jobs. Lack of free time could be considered a problem. Does anyone actually argue about relatives? We see Jim's sister twice a year. In theory people argue about which relative they visit on holidays. Do people argue about what to eat? The temperature of the house? Where to go on vacation?
I've been in relationships where house temperature has been an issue -- what to eat has never been as issue. Don't like what's for dinner? Make something else. We don't argue about relatives because we pretty much agree about them. His mother's a goddess, his father is a twice a year duty, my relatives are far away and better left so for the most part. No issues. ;)
Re #3 - I meant accidentally typing "she" instead of "he" makes a huge difference in meaning...as in a lesbian relationship as opposed to a hetero. But, of course, then I said in the next line that Rachael and I had the same problems that Kevin and I have right now. (Rachael is an ex) How to decorate would probably be number six, along with temperature of the house. I like it very cool and Kevin cranks it up to seventy degrees. Yuck.
On the subject of problems in relationships, i don't see that hetero/homo is any bigger a difference than citizen/green card. Certainly the responses so far here don't suggest that the ratio of X to Y chromosomes is important. Hetero generally gets your relationship better social support and worse odds of accidental pregnancy. Are these really big issues?
Jim also read that married men are most satisfied with relationships, followed
by single women, single men, and married women. I note that no men have
written in to complain about their relationships. Why? Is it possible that
the neatnik in hetero pairs is usually the woman, and the man does not notice
any problem in housekeeping?
Re temperature, some people metabolically require higher temperatures.
So much of our life is cleanly split into "his" "mine" and "ours" that we rarely argue over time, space, money, etc. Thinking about it -- I can't remember the last time we actually fought over anything. We have constructive you-give-your-side-and-I'll-give-mine arguements that get lively, but never heated. We're so happy together it's disgusting. 8^}
Hmm. As far as I can tell, my parents have no separation in dealing with any of their posessions. Other than obvious things like Sport Illustrated, there's no clear cut predominance of use.
My parents argue over money more than anything. #2 - how to raise the children (now that 2/3 have moved out, it really isn't an issue anymore) #3 - what to watch and what to tape for later (I kid you not) #4 - what's a weed and what's a flower #5 - if they have already seen that movie at the video store As you can see, my parents have a great relationship...it's simply amazing.
My ex and I broke up over honeymoon plans. He wanted to go to Hawaii, and I didn't want to get married.
Ta-bomp.
Please translate that last response.
It's an old Vaudeville thing.
A rim-shot.
We have a frequent argument about Jim always leaving his shoes on top of mine. (We take them off at the door). He always insists that he did not leave them there. I wash my shoes frequently for that reason. 15 years of this. Anybody else have equally ridiculous arguments?
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Well, if one person is getting frustrated about anything, argument is inevitable. You might limit the damage by not letting the frustration build up too much first... My non-relationship housemate experience tell me that small arguments over things that just happened are *much* better than big arguments over things that happened a week ago. :/
I would sort of agree with that, Scott, except to say that for me, waiting for the first rush of frustration to pass is a good idea. But speaking up before it happens again is also important.
Yes, it's good to avoid snapping over something that isn't that big a deal. Letting things fester is a Very Bad Idea, though.
I think my non-relationship apartment mate situation fell apart because we took great pains to be very nice and polite to eachother, and after about eight months of it I finally snapped and let out everything that had been building all that time, and it went down hill from there. It probaly would have gone a lot better if we could have had smaller arguments more frequently.
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housekeepng, what is good enough and <mostly> what isnt. outdoor activities.. laid back attitude vs planning something in such excruciating detail yuo stop having fun days before the trip is even scheduled.
I had two housemates who were upset that I did not clean the bathroom to their
standards. I spent little time in the bathroom, but it seemed that I was the
only one who ever washed the kitchen floor and waxed it, or cleaned the stove,
or defrosted the refrigerator, or did the yardwork. You see what is important
to you and do something about that.
Since dirt on the tops of shoes is not something Jim cares about or
even notices, the solution is to put my shoes where his cannot land on them.
We need a bigger entrance way than a corner of the kitchen. (Is this what
is meant by infrastructure).
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Julie and I argue sometimes due to a lack of communication, lack of energy, or her ADD (she forgets a lot) or my manic-depression (I'm self-conscious about being in control of myself).
I was on a canoe trip one time with two friends. Peter was extremely picky about loading the canoe so it was *perfectly* balanced. After Rae and I loaded the canoe, Peter would spend another 20 minutes repacking and shuffling things so that the canoe was as stable as it could possibly be. Rae hated dirty or ugly campsites. At the end of the day, when Peter and I had *no* energy left, Rae would veto acceptable campsites, and we would have to paddle on for another 20 minutes until we found the perfect campsite. I could not abide dirty dishes and food being left out overnight. Besides behing harder to clean when dried and stale, the pans would attract insects, rodents and other wildlife. It didn't bother me a bit to heat up water and wash everything before we went to bed. I kept everyone up banging around after dinner washing dishes. We could have driven each other crazy by complaining that the foolishly high standards were a waste of time. On the other hand, the canoe was exceedingly easy to paddle, our evening and morning views were awe-inspiring, and we didn't have any food-borne illness or unwanted visitors the whole trip.
Sounds very sensible to me.
Yeah-- sounds like it worked out.
what about mother-in-laws? My wife and I argue about her more than everything. The mother in law is a shady creature of the night that bugs the heck out of me with her very presence on this earth. lol
My mother-in-law lives with us at least half the year and its a pleasure to have her. I'm trying to think what we discuss as major concerns and its probably about time and money like Cindy related per Jim. Of course, the shoes thing is a big deal for me, too. We have at least 5 shoe racks near our front and side door and I have a TON of shoes. I'm a freak about keeping my shoes from being scuffed, etc... That's of course MY issue to deal with really.
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