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Grex History Item 8: howdy, cousin!
Entered by igor on Mon Jul 29 21:38:24 UTC 1991:

dont know if this will work, but here goes..

i was wondering if people would be willing to list the last names
of their ancesters, (all that they know) and possibly the
area they lived in.

maybe you could find a "cousin" you never knew you had.

43 responses total.



#1 of 43 by igor on Mon Jul 29 21:42:43 1991:

ray from missouri and genesee county
richardson from missouri
hart from hillsdale and genesee
lickly, treat, dithmars(sp?) from hillsdale and lenawee counties

there is more, but i cant remember at the moment.


#2 of 43 by polygon on Mon Jul 29 21:58:22 1991:

KESTNBAUM (Budapest Hungary, NYC, Chicago)
WEINTRAUB (Budapest)
KAROLI (Budapest)
SAVEREIDE (town of similar name in Norway; Estherville IA and other Iowa
  and/or Minnesota small towns)
DIETRICH (Cassville WI, earlier from Beaver County PA)
FEST (Cassville WI, from Germany)
JESKY (shortening of longer Polish name, Marinette WI, from a part
  of Poland that was in Prussia as of 1872)


#3 of 43 by jep on Mon Jul 29 22:19:29 1991:

        Perry from Mecosta County, MI and Germany
        Miller from Davenport, Iowa
        Austin from Lansing, MI
        Eiman from Lansing, MI and England (I think)


#4 of 43 by mcnally on Mon Jul 29 22:45:27 1991:

  My grandparents were originally:  McNally, Riley, Morrison, and Burns.
Though there are a lot of Scottish Burns's and Morrisons, my forebears all
came from Ireland about 4 or 5 generations back.  All of my grandparents
(and most of my great-granparents) came from Chicago.


#5 of 43 by arabella on Mon Jul 29 23:44:44 1991:

Hmmm....  Smith, from Yorkshire (I think)
Ryan, from somewhere in Ireland, later in NYC.
Kowalski, from Poland, later Northern New Jersey.
Semanski, from Torun in Poland (still some relatives in Krakow), then New 
  Jersey.
There's a couple of other names I forget.  I'll have to call my sister
and ask her.


#6 of 43 by ty on Tue Jul 30 00:26:23 1991:

Zucker, from Frankenmuth, before that Gunzenhausen, Germany.
Block, from the same.
Sanders, Hmmm not sure on this one.  My mom knows.  I'll check.
Jones, same Jones family that Daniel Boone married into.


#7 of 43 by marcvh on Tue Jul 30 00:32:05 1991:

(ones I know offhand...)

VANHEYNINGEN, from Kent Co. and the Netherlands (I think Amsterdam)
DE VRIES (sp variable), from Kent. Co. and the Netherlands.
FREEMAN, from New Jersey, originally of Germany I think
HOLLISTER, likewise


#8 of 43 by mta on Tue Jul 30 03:02:38 1991:

Delaney--Ireland, New York
Kennedy--Ireland
Gibney-Ireland, New York
Ryan--Ireland, New York
DuRocher-France, Sherrington Quebuc, New York
Gagne--France, Quebec, New York

lots of others I can't bring to mind right off.


#9 of 43 by arthur on Tue Jul 30 03:12:47 1991:

   Doehne -- Leipzig area of Germany
   Steuding - Wilhelmshafen, ditto
   Jensen -- Denmark   (I have an uncle Georg) :-)
   Haahr  -- Denmark   (Every Dane named Haahr is a relative of mine.)


#10 of 43 by jenny on Tue Jul 30 08:00:27 1991:

Gotshall -- Wisconsin, Germany
Knapstein -- Wisconsin, Germany
Knowles -- Wisconsin,
Randby -- Again WI
Brown -- Again WI


#11 of 43 by mcnally on Tue Jul 30 08:11:05 1991:

(where do the Clarks come from, then?)


#12 of 43 by polygon on Wed Jul 31 10:33:00 1991:

Re 11.  Clark is her married name, silly.  She's the same person who used
to be known as jennyg (Jenny Gotshall).

Re 7.  Hollister is a prominent name in the Lansing area.  There's a
Hollister Road in Clinton County, a state rep, and a couple members of the
Lansing Community College board named Hollister.


#13 of 43 by brandon on Wed Jul 31 13:17:52 1991:

Let's see:

Piziks - Latvia (Riga - you know, where they had a huge concentration camp
         during World War II. *Just* what the Latvians wanted on their
         doorstep.)

Bacon - Michigan for a loooooooooooooooooong time. Ultimately from England.
        My grandmother thinks we're related to Sir Francis Bacon but hasn't
        been able to prove it yet.

Drake - Michigan for an equally loooooooooooooooooooooooong time. From Wales
        before that.


#14 of 43 by joni on Thu Aug 1 17:58:46 1991:

This item got me pretty interested, so I started asking my mom and dad
questions! So here goes :)


I have a lot of info on my mom's side, but to make it short I only
included last names.  My great great Aunt Emily collected most of the
information from the church in Wisconsin.  


Moms side
Klopp   --   Luxemburg,Germany --Moved to Kenosha Wisc in 1878
Zoller  --   Kenosha Wisc.
Treinen --   Prussia --  Moved to Kenosha Wisc.
McLeod  --   Canada  --  Moved to Rexton, Mi.
Derusha --   Canada  --  Moved to Rexton, Mi.
Smith   --   Michigan

Dad's side (don't know much about)
Vincent --   Garden Island MI.
Wachter --   Green Island MI.
Maudrie --   Buckingham Canada -- Moved to Mi in 1894

My Great Grandpa, Terrance Paul Maudrie (Terry) won the title of 
world champion roller skate birler in 1907, and the world's birling
championship in 1915.  It is reported that for 20 straight years
he never met his equal as a birler.  He was 5'4" tall and at the
height of his career weighed only 115lbs.




#15 of 43 by mcnally on Thu Aug 1 19:27:08 1991:

 According to my dictionary, "birling" is that lumberjack game you
see where two guys try to spin each other off a log.  How the heck
does that extend to include roller skates?


#16 of 43 by igor on Thu Aug 1 19:35:33 1991:

rexton? i have some shirttail relatives there..


#17 of 43 by joni on Thu Aug 1 19:52:14 1991:

re 15:   I'll ask my dad about that tonight.  I got the information
about my great grandpa from a newspaper article.


re 16:    Names!  I want names!


#18 of 43 by polygon on Fri Aug 2 06:10:26 1991:

Re 16.  My grandparents retired to a small town not far from Kenosha.  They
came from opposite corners of Wisconsin (Cassville and Marinette) and both
moved to Chicago, where they met and married.  Much later, they retired to
a "neutral corner" of Wisconsin -- Fontana, near Lake Geneva.  Both are dead
now, though.

As to famous relatives ... my great-uncle Meyer Kestnbaum was president of
Hart Schaffner & Marx, the big Chicago shirt company.  He was in charge of
labor relations at the time that HS&M was lauded for its innovative labor
relations.  He lived at 209 E. Lake Shore Drive (supposedly the most
prestigious apartment building in Chicago) and died in 1960.

I also have a first cousin (Diane Savereide) who has been U.S. Women's
Chess Champion.


#19 of 43 by igor on Fri Aug 2 10:10:24 1991:

another famous relative of mine was robert treat paine.
when he was signing the declaration of independance, his pen slipped
thus misspelling his name and making a bit of a blop.
it figures, doesnt it?


#20 of 43 by joni on Fri Aug 2 12:29:57 1991:

re: 15   According to my dad (I couldn't get a whole lot of information
from him last night, because wrestling was on but...) apparently the way
it was done with roller skates, is one guy rolls the log, and the other
guy has skates on and does tricks.


#21 of 43 by marcvh on Sat Aug 3 00:16:15 1991:

(Re #12, I just remembered that the HOLLISTER (my maternal grandmother)
 grew up in the area of Battle Creek, raised by her mother's sister
 [she never knew her mother.]  Curious; could be vaguely related.)


#22 of 43 by igor on Mon Aug 5 14:01:19 1991:

ok, another installment..
barclay, tingley, corser, nonfoey, sage, tapp, ditmars,pelty
higley, smith,pardee
from michigan, scotland, new york and new england.

treat and trott are from england.


#23 of 43 by polygon on Tue Aug 6 11:42:13 1991:

Any relation to Prof. Donald Treat of the MSU History Department?


#24 of 43 by polygon on Tue Aug 6 11:42:39 1991:

Er, I mean, MSU Theatre Department!


#25 of 43 by igor on Wed Aug 7 11:43:27 1991:

could be. although i have never met any of the 'treat' side.
(i think they came from the east coast and settled in adrian, among
other places).


#26 of 43 by mythago on Fri Aug 9 18:54:38 1991:

I know a Kay Treat.


#27 of 43 by ty on Mon Aug 19 19:26:54 1991:

After visiting my folks this past weekend, I found out some pretty
interesting things about my moms side of the family.  Apparently my
grandmother's grandfather had two brothers.  Their family name was
Evans.  This is the same Evans from which Evanston, Illinois is named
after.  Anyways, one of the brothers name was Thomas Evans and he
is the man who donated the land on for Northwestern University.  Another
of the brothers was govenor of Colorado (might have been the first) and he
donated the land for the Univerity of Denver.  The third brother donated 
the land for Earlham college in Richville, IN.  I don't remember which
nd for Earlham college in Richville, IN.  I don't remember the names
of the other two brothers or which one is my greatx4 grandfather.




#28 of 43 by genesis on Tue Aug 20 01:44:48 1991:

Let's all sing!

"I'm my own Grandpa! It sounds funny I know but it really is so! I'm my own
grandpa!"



#29 of 43 by katie on Sun Sep 1 03:00:19 1991:

  Geddes - Saginaw, Scotland.
  Rau - Frankenmuth, Germany.
  Madigan - Ireland
  Morrison - Canada, Ireland.
  Menck - Canada, Germany.
  Turnbull - ?


#30 of 43 by polygon on Sun Sep 1 06:17:47 1991:

Madigan?  Are you related to the Madigan family in East Lansing?


#31 of 43 by katie on Mon Sep 2 02:12:27 1991:

 Dunno. Bridget Madigan was my mother's father's mother.


#32 of 43 by mcnally on Tue Sep 3 05:10:30 1991:

 re #29:  hmmmmm..  Morrison is my middle name (literally.)  My father's
mother's family were Morrison's (and my great aunt Eleanor Morrison, last
of the line, died last week (one of the reasons I've been away..))  The
Morrisons I'm related to didn't come by way of Canada, but do you happen
to know where your Morrisons came from in Ireland?


#33 of 43 by katie on Wed Sep 4 15:11:34 1991:

No, sorry. My great grandfather was Archibald Morrison. I think I can get
his parents' names and place of birth from my grandma's old bible.


#34 of 43 by mcnally on Wed Sep 4 18:23:11 1991:

  I'm not all that curious, but had you happened to know, I would have been
interested to hear.


#35 of 43 by angi on Tue Sep 10 00:27:20 1991:

I have no idea where the Ritz's were from other than Detroit.

Igor, you said Richardson from Missouri?  Granted, Richardson is a
fairly common name, but I also am related to Richardsons from Missouri.

Norris-Missouri
Bishop-Missouri
Martin-Arkansas



#36 of 43 by mta on Sun Dec 1 19:57:46 1991:

Joni, do you know where in Canada your Derusha kin come from?  I wonder
if they might be related to my Quebecois Durocher kin...in french they
would sound an awful lot alike to us 'anglos'...

I have discovered an O 'Connell line in my Irish/New York kin.


#37 of 43 by carson on Sun Jan 23 19:47:20 1994:

RIZOR - settled from Germany somewhere in mid-Michigan. My dad knows; I'll 
        have to ask him.
COVINGTON - probably a slave name. he's from North Carolina, and I seem to 
        remember a constant migration north among his ancestors.
LOVELACE - probably also a slave name. Her great-grandmother was a slave, but
        the grandmother was born free.


#38 of 43 by gracel on Mon Jan 24 16:13:53 1994:

Lovelace where??


#39 of 43 by scg on Tue Feb 8 05:10:21 1994:

GIBBARD - Came from Padburry, England, to Mission, British Columbia.
CRAIG - Indiana, and I think maybe of Scotch - Irish origin.
REID - My grandmother was from Montreal, and I'm not sure where the family
        was from before that.  Somewhere in Ireland, I assume (it's a pretty
        common name, though, so having that last name wouldn't necessarily
        say anything).
SWAN - Originally from Scotland.  The family imigrated shortly before the
        revolution to various East Coast places.  My great^5 uncle, James
        Swan, owned Swan's Island, off the coast of Maine, in the late 1700s.
        He was also a member of the Sons of Liberty, took part in the Boston 
        Tea Party, and was one of the people who lent money to the US to pay
        off the debt to the French after the Revolution (because they gave him
        a good intrest rate.  He was later hired to smuggle Marie Antoinette
        out of France during their revolution, but took off with her furnature
        after he got word that she had been caught.
And some other names that I'm too tired to think of right now.


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