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Grex History Item 27: Is the history conference history? [frozen]
Entered by carson on Sun Jan 16 19:52:30 UTC 1994:

have all the historians and corresponding buffs left Grex?

23 responses total.



#1 of 23 by rcurl on Sun Jan 16 21:24:39 1994:

History takes time.


#2 of 23 by remmers on Sun Jan 16 23:05:48 1994:

Do you have something to say about history?  Enter it in this conference.
Activity begets activity.

"Build it and they will come."


#3 of 23 by kentn on Mon Jan 17 01:09:37 1994:

But remember, don't discuss military history.  That leaves me out...


#4 of 23 by srw on Mon Jan 17 01:46:33 1994:

Why not? Military history is very interesting. I wish I knew more about it.


#5 of 23 by remmers on Mon Jan 17 02:26:30 1994:

In item 1, the fairwitness suggested avoiding military history.
Is a (non-violent) coup in order?


#6 of 23 by rcurl on Mon Jan 17 06:19:15 1994:

History repeats itself, and that's one of the things that's wrong with history.
-Clarence Darrow


#7 of 23 by srw on Mon Jan 17 07:12:45 1994:

re #5, sorry I probably forgot that.
Well that's a bummer, as I indicated in 4.
It's one thing to disapprove of military operations, but I can't see the 
point of not talking about them. They won't go away if you ignore them.
In fact maybe they will if you talk about them *enough*.


#8 of 23 by davel on Mon Jan 17 11:19:48 1994:

If I remember what he said, his concern was the kind of discussion that
military-history buffs get into - endless & very technical discussions of
battles presupposing knowledge of details that no one else here would know.
I can't imagine that becoming a problem here, & I don't think polygon is
likely to suppress discussion of military history in any way, anyway.  If
a coup could limit itself to a few items (at first, anyway), anyone who
objects can forget them.  IMO items on military history would be welcome,
especially if they can be kept at a level non-specialists can relate to.

(Larry, I just put some words in your mouth, & you're entitled to object
if I'm wrong.)


#9 of 23 by vidar on Tue Jan 18 02:19:26 1994:

History is constantly in the making.  We'll get more history soon.


#10 of 23 by carson on Wed Jan 19 03:19:06 1994:

hey! I proved remmers point by entering an item! I should do that more often!
<carson runs off to post items in various unsavory conferences>


#11 of 23 by polygon on Thu Jan 27 00:26:27 1994:

I have reconsidered.  Please consider my earlier comments on military
history retracted.


#12 of 23 by carson on Thu Jan 27 17:07:42 1994:

There's a good conference saving idea by a fairwitness! Here we go.... :)


#13 of 23 by remmers on Thu Jan 27 17:33:35 1994:

("And then General McClellan moved his troops two miles upstream,
where they camped near the village of Gooney Point...")


#14 of 23 by rcurl on Fri Jan 28 06:04:23 1994:

(You left out where they took a side trip into the bushes, en route.)

History is little more than the register of the crimes, follies and misfortunes
of mankind.
-Edward Gibbon


#15 of 23 by srw on Fri Jan 28 07:19:20 1994:

I just listened on NPR to an account from a survivor of the Nazi siege
of Leningrad in 1942-44. It was quite moving. I think NPR was trying to
show a similarity to the current siege of Sarajevo.

I am afraid that the Sarajevans will not be rescued by their countrymen as
the Leningrad folks were. It seems that there are lots of holes in this
parallel.


#16 of 23 by vidar on Fri Jan 28 22:20:46 1994:

I'm going to another conference.


#17 of 23 by srw on Sat Jan 29 06:47:40 1994:

Why vidar, are the realities of war too brutal for you?
This is the purpose of history. We study the past so we can learn from it.


#18 of 23 by rcurl on Sat Jan 29 06:50:38 1994:

Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history.
-Abraham Lincoln


#19 of 23 by vidar on Sun Jan 30 00:46:28 1994:

Realities of war too brutal?  Ha!  I say old chap, you must have lost your
bloody mind.  I love war as does my cousin.


#20 of 23 by srw on Sun Jan 30 01:53:32 1994:

Then why do you run away (#16) in response to my #15?


#21 of 23 by vidar on Sun Jan 30 15:30:54 1994:

Because I couldn't think of any intelligent response except to tell you
that I was switching conferences.


#22 of 23 by srw on Mon Jan 31 06:10:24 1994:

Well, I understand now, but it mislead me. Why did you have to say anything?


#23 of 23 by carson on Mon Jan 31 17:45:06 1994:

That's drift bait.... I'll freeze this before he gets the chance.

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