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Grex Hippie Item 80: Newbie Grexer looking for a Clue about this Conference
Entered by lee on Mon Dec 30 17:49:57 UTC 1996:

Okay, I'm new here (if that wasn't completely obvious) Most conferences around
here I've found seem to have this item 1 where it describes the conference
and such, well I'm not finding one here, so maybe someone could clue me in
to what goes on in this conference and such?

Btw, what is the definition of a hippie?  Do you have to be in a certain age
range and if so, what *is* that age range?

35 responses total.



#1 of 35 by mta on Tue Dec 31 07:18:16 1996:

I think we never really defined the purpose of the hippie conference, Lee.
And the definition of a hippie is a good question.  It's not an age thing,
it's a mindset.


#2 of 35 by lee on Wed Jan 1 22:36:20 1997:

So what is the mindset of the hippie?  Somebody out there must consider
themselves a hippie... maybe they can share some of those details with the
rest of us clueless people about what a hippie's mindset is.


#3 of 35 by mta on Wed Jan 1 23:39:24 1997:

Well, I'm a tiny bit young to be absolutely sure (the high point of hippie
culture was just coming to an end as I became sentient) but I think some of
the key points are:
        Hippies are both personally and politically liberal.
        Hippies have a simple, "natural" aesthetic.
        Hippies have, in general, opted out of the culture of conspicuous
        consumption.
        Hippies are concerned with humans' relationship with the earth.
        Hippies believe in the ideal of universal love and respect for all
        beings.
        Hippies, in general, believe that people should be judged not on
        appearances but on what's in their hearts.

Having said all this, hippies are people and as such don't meet all of these
ideals.

Anyone got a better informed definition??


#4 of 35 by hokshila on Tue Jan 7 13:08:43 1997:

Hippies are cool, man, and well, just enjoy the day!


#5 of 35 by lee on Sat Jan 25 02:57:05 1997:

When was the high point of hippie culture?

What exactly was the meaning of all those beads that people used to
wear?


#6 of 35 by mta on Sun Jan 26 23:42:38 1997:

The "high point of hippe culture?  MMaybe around 1964 sometime...

The beads were, I think, an "everyman" fashion statement -- beads are fairly
inexpensive and so anyone could afford 'em.  (Hippies also borrowed a great
deal from native american culture, and the beads looked sort of like the glass
beads associated with wampum.  Mostly, though, it was just one of those
fashion things that the media made much of -- "guys?  Wearing necklaces?? 
You have got to be kidding!"  



#7 of 35 by lee on Mon Jan 27 00:14:43 1997:

1964?  Whoa, before my time.  No wonder I never understood the
hippie culture.  I like beads.  It's just in some old shows,
people will say something like, "Those beads are far out, man"
and I won't see what's so significat about said beans...


#8 of 35 by bruin on Mon Jan 27 00:18:08 1997:

RE #6 & #7 actually, the hippie counterculture was most prevalent between 1966
and 1970-71.


#9 of 35 by lee on Mon Jan 27 20:30:07 1997:

So what exactly consisted of the hippie counterculture?  What did
people do, in addition to what they believed in that was 
mentioned earlier (ok, I'm sick, I'm hoping the grammar here
isn't uncomprehendable)


#10 of 35 by mta on Wed Jan 29 15:44:54 1997:

Actually "Hippie" was buried in 1967, so anything that came after was not
truly hippie but part of the media circus that came after.  y 1970 the real
hippies had gone on to other things the media and the mainstream didn't
understand.  All that was left were the day trippers and the fashion victims.

The "Hey man, cool beads" remark was generally made to men and the reason for
it i\ was that the idea of men adorning themselves "like women" was pretty
revolutionary.  Remember, before hippises men's adornment was pretty limited
and maybe even kind of boring.

Please excuse the typos -- the lag is getting to me.


#11 of 35 by lee on Wed Jan 29 22:33:09 1997:

<lee wonders if men wore any type of jewelry before the 1960's, including but
not limited to wedding bands>


#12 of 35 by mta on Thu Feb 6 00:41:15 1997:

Pretty much not.  Adornment (beyond a conservative wedding band) was all but
unknown for men in EuroAmerican culture for most of the last two centuries.
Before that, of course, there were periods when men wore far more adornment
than women.


#13 of 35 by lee on Thu Feb 6 01:00:08 1997:

<Moondance wonders how that whole change took place, where men went from
wearing more jewelry than women to none at all, until the hippe age>

Where did the expression "far out" come from?


#14 of 35 by mta on Thu Feb 6 04:41:09 1997:

I'm not sure where the swing from gobs of jewelry to none happened exactly
-- but I suspect it was probably gradual.  Probably it was just a normal swing
of fashion.  (Hah, like anything about fashion is ever "normal".  ;>)


#15 of 35 by lee on Thu Feb 6 23:14:27 1997:

So what was it like living in the "hippie era"?


#16 of 35 by mta on Fri Feb 7 03:36:11 1997:

I'm not really sure except from reading.  I was born very late in the era
and what little I "lived through" my parents carefully protected me from.
Until the mid eighties I thought the hippie era was something that happened
around the same time was the world wars.  My husband has been feeding me
facts.


#17 of 35 by lee on Fri Feb 7 22:12:49 1997:

<Moondance wonders if you can recommend any books that will describe said
"hippie era">


#18 of 35 by mta on Sun Feb 9 01:20:28 1997:

Well, Abbie Hoffmans'  Dancing in the Ice Age or Steal this Book are pretty
interesting reading.  I'll check with Larry for other titles.


#19 of 35 by omni on Sat Dec 27 23:45:23 1997:

  I just had a cool thought.

  Misti's definition of a hippie:
Hippies are both personally and politically liberal.
        Hippies have a simple, "natural" aesthetic.
        Hippies have, in general, opted out of the culture of conspicuous
        consumption.
        Hippies are concerned with humans' relationship with the earth.
        Hippies believe in the ideal of universal love and respect for all
        beings.
        Hippies, in general, believe that people should be judged not on
        appearances but on what's in their hearts.

  Sound like anyone you know?  Perhaps the first hippie was Jesus.

  Give that some thought!


#20 of 35 by mta on Fri Jan 9 00:35:53 1998:

I've been suggesting that on and off for 30 years, Jim.  ;)
(My father was far from impressed.)


#21 of 35 by cmcgee on Sat May 8 14:27:21 2004:

Hey hippies!
Since I'm on somewhat more frequently than Misti, and since the co-fw has left
the system,  I'm volunteering to be a co-fw here.  Any support or objections?


#22 of 35 by mary on Sat May 8 14:43:54 2004:

I support your fairwitnessship.


#23 of 35 by glenda on Sat May 8 16:17:35 2004:

I second that support.


#24 of 35 by keesan on Sat May 8 20:57:30 2004:

Third


#25 of 35 by klg on Sun May 9 02:01:15 2004:

What are Mr. cmcgee's qualifications?


#26 of 35 by cmcgee on Sun May 9 19:54:20 2004:

Aging hippie with serious resume experience in starting food coop, organizing
farm workers, and some left over embroidered bell bottoms still in her closet.


#27 of 35 by klg on Sun May 9 21:11:44 2004:

Current communist, or ex?


#28 of 35 by scott on Sun May 9 21:27:13 2004:

Not so fast, klg.  First you have to prove your credentials before you can
question somebody elses.


#29 of 35 by klg on Mon May 10 03:42:48 2004:

Just asking, Mr. scott.  Perhaps he also ought to release tax returns.


#30 of 35 by scott on Mon May 10 12:30:16 2004:

klg, before you get technical in your demands at least make sure you know the
gender of the candidate.


#31 of 35 by klg on Mon May 10 16:18:17 2004:

We are not desirous of becoming intimate, Mr. scott.  (In which case, 
however, we would want to know its sex.)


#32 of 35 by peace123 on Thu Dec 2 06:23:09 2004:


STOP THE WAR
 

Anti-war protest every Saturday from 12-2pm on the corner of rt 9&9d near
staples.  Stop this senseless killing today!  Stand up against the bu$h agenda!
goto DutchessGreens.org for more info




#33 of 35 by klg on Thu Dec 2 12:02:39 2004:

Is that in Canada?  I can provide a ride - one way.


#34 of 35 by distatica on Fri Jul 22 23:54:29 2005:

hippie or hippy:
A person who opposes and rejects many of the conventional standards and
customs of society, especially one who advocates extreme liberalism in
sociopolitical attitudes and lifestyles.


#35 of 35 by distatica on Fri Jul 22 23:54:58 2005:

Sorry, Quoted from Dictionary.com

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