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Grex Hippie Item 53: Personal Health and the tampon [linked]
Entered by mta on Wed Aug 18 20:31:59 UTC 1993:

I've been hearing lately about the possible role of tampons in the
increasing rates of endomentriosis, and thus inability to conceive
in the current generation.  I knew that they made me cramp something
awful...but does anyone have any information on other health effects
of these infernal contraptions?

114 responses total.



#1 of 114 by mta on Wed Aug 18 20:33:00 1993:

Toxic Shock Syndrome comes to mind right off.  I haven't heard of a 
case lately, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening.  Is it?


#2 of 114 by glenda on Thu Aug 19 12:55:26 1993:

Toxic Shock Syndrome was linked to the ultra super tampons, Rely in
specific (I was very upset when they took it off the market, it was the
only one I had found that would let me go more than 1-1.5 hours away from
a bathroom during my heavy flow days).  None of the tampons out today are
as absorbant as the Rely super was.  This was the problem.  Rely imbedded
little pieces of sponge in the cotton.  This super absorbancy caused super
dryness which allowed whatever buggie that cased Toxic Shock to flurrish, and
because it was so absorbant a lot of woman didn't change it often enough
which compounded the problem.

I hadn't heard of the endometriosus link, are there references I can look
up?


#3 of 114 by elfrey on Thu Aug 19 19:47:43 1993:

I love the darn things... sigh.. I suppose they are bad for me though


#4 of 114 by athena on Fri Aug 20 00:23:41 1993:

They are saying now that you can wear a Tampon up to 8 hours, while you're
sleeping...I don't think it's safe though...


#5 of 114 by glenda on Fri Aug 20 13:17:13 1993:

Have been doing it for almost 20 years with no problems (and I sometimes sleep
more than 8 hours).


#6 of 114 by gregor on Fri Aug 20 23:13:58 1993:

I've heard from both professional and non-professionaly sources that tampons
actually increase flow, as well as increase this risk of Toxic Shock.
But, I can't experiment.  Any comments/?


#7 of 114 by glenda on Sat Aug 21 12:51:22 1993:

Can't really say.  I've used tampons since my 2nd or 3rd period.  The napkin
materials used waaaay back then caused me to break out in a horrible rash so
Mom asked the Dr if it was okay for me to switch.  The only time since that
I have used pads instead was just after the kids were born.  Still got the
rash, but not quite as badly as before (thank GOD, after birth evacuation
lasts for weeks rather than days).


#8 of 114 by dana on Sun Aug 22 02:21:20 1993:

After the outbreak of TSS the Food and Drug Administration required 
manufacturers to lower tampon absorbency.  There is even an FDA
regulated definition for how many grams regular, super-absorbency, etc.
can absorb.

\I recently researched tampons in connection with dioxin.  I have
found the since the TSS outbreak of 1980 there really hasn't been
any research done regarding women and tampons.  (If I missed a study
please let me know about it, I haven't given up on the article.)

The theory I am aware of regarding tampons asserta that the tampon
can block the free flow of fluid from the uterus.   When the uterus
contracts the fluid backs up and goes into the fallopian tubes
where it can leave behind bits of endometrial tissue.  The bits of
tissue remain and respond to the chemical changes in a women's 
body as if they were in the uterus.  When the bodies signals
for the tissue to secrete the fluid and detach itself, the tissue
in the fallopian tubes responds causing pain and other symptoms
(endometriosis) to the women, as fallopian tubes weren't designed
with that in mine.

Severe cases cause scarring of the tubes as the body build scar tissue
over the tissue.  This lessens the pain since the tissue doesn't
receive and can't respond to chemical messages and interferes with
conception.

The `learned' men of our society believe that endometriosis is caused
by not having children early in life, and there does seem to be a link.
But the same generation has worn tampons most of their life.  Although
this affects 50 - 70% of U.S. women (_Ms. Magazine 11/12 1992) tampons
have never been seriously studied.

Please excuse the length and the typos.
Next!


#9 of 114 by popcorn on Wed Aug 25 03:13:21 1993:

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#10 of 114 by dana on Wed Sep 1 02:19:27 1993:

I just learned recently that there have been some medical studies
done on women, tampons, and endometriosis which supports the theory
I listed above a _a_ possible cause of endometriosis.  I also learned
that there is a type of endometriosis called renegade endometriosis
which is more rare.

Renegade endometriosis is when the endometrial tissue leaves the
fallopian tubes and enters the blood stream floating around until
it attaches itself someplace in the body separate from the repro-
ductive tissue.  It is possible for it to attached itself just 
about anywhere, though probabilities vary.  Again, this is a rare
type of endometriosis.


#11 of 114 by dana on Sun Sep 19 18:39:16 1993:

Re#1    Toxic Schock Syndrome (TSS) still happens.  Since the
        FDA regulated tampon absorbency the incidence has
        fallen 93%.  A litle more than half the cases are in
        menstruating women.  The menstruating women are usually
        between the ages of 15 - 19 yrs. old.  (I don't know
        why.)  
        TSS is caused by bacteria.  tampons make a great environ-
        ment for it to grow, as do diapers.  Remember men, babies
        and women have all contracted TSS.

        I didn't mean for this to read like a Public Service announcement
        I just didn't want people to think of it as solely a women's
        problem.



#12 of 114 by craig on Tue Sep 28 07:58:33 1993:

Is that worded correctly?  They have all contracted TSS?


#13 of 114 by jett on Tue Sep 28 12:17:15 1993:

Re#12  If I read it right, craig, dana didn't say that men had contracted TSS.
       If she/he had, there would be a comma before "men", not after it.  Has
       anyone heard of men contracting TSS?


#14 of 114 by dana on Tue Sep 28 13:07:29 1993:

Sometimes those things have to be figured in by the reader, as I
don't know how to edit my responses.


#15 of 114 by popcorn on Wed Sep 29 03:19:12 1993:

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#16 of 114 by wh on Wed Sep 29 15:08:39 1993:

I interpreted it to mean "Men, remember: both women and babies
can get it."


#17 of 114 by dana on Thu Sep 30 12:49:23 1993:

OK, Men, women and babies can get TSS.
bye


#18 of 114 by craig on Fri Oct 1 01:40:36 1993:

Actually, it's worded correctly to be an address to "men."

The actual problem is that it seems to say that all babies and women
have contracted TSS.

If it was including men, it would have said, "Remember:  men, babies...".

The word "all" is confusing to the reader.


#19 of 114 by popcorn on Fri Oct 1 03:56:30 1993:

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#20 of 114 by gracel on Fri Oct 1 15:45:29 1993:

The "important information" insert on my box of tampons says
"TSS also occurs, however, among men, children, and non-menstruating
women."  And FWIW, after going-on-twenty years of using them, I had
laparoscopic evidence that I did _not_ have endometriosis -- that was
about 10 years ago.


#21 of 114 by mta on Sun Oct 3 04:27:39 1993:

While we're on the topic, I can now vouch for the comfort and efficacy
of the re-usable cotton mentrual pads.  They're made of a soft, pretty
flanel that seems to absorb just as well as the paper pads I had been
using.  And they just keep getting *softer* as they get washed, if you
can believe that!


#22 of 114 by young on Sun Oct 3 05:48:08 1993:

Yes, but does the darn thing have wings?


#23 of 114 by meg on Mon Oct 4 16:34:29 1993:

re #21 - I've never even seen these.  Where do you get them?

Every time I find a tampon I can deal with, they take it off the market for
one reason or another.


#24 of 114 by mta on Tue Oct 5 02:11:13 1993:

I've seen ads for the re-usable cotton pads in about 4 different magazines.
The PFC also carries them at the Packard store.  As to wings -- since you
fold them to fit, if you want wings, you get wings.


#25 of 114 by glenda on Tue Oct 5 15:23:54 1993:

They are also available at Whole Foods.


#26 of 114 by meg on Wed Oct 6 03:41:09 1993:

Gosh.  What goes around comes around.  I believe that the reusable substance
(hence the term "on the rag") method was the preferred method for hundreds
if not thousands of years prior to this century.


#27 of 114 by i on Wed Oct 6 22:50:09 1993:

Not buying all the disposables you can do is a crime against God, Nature, 
America, and the Everest Landfill Company.

Shopping is more fun than doing laundry, too.


#28 of 114 by dana on Sat Oct 16 21:30:51 1993:

You can get the flannel pads at the Peoples Food Co-op in Ypsilanti too.


#29 of 114 by popcorn on Sat Oct 16 23:45:01 1993:

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#30 of 114 by garima on Sun Dec 12 07:02:09 1993:

I hate tampons. I swear by "Always" dry-weave napkins. I have used all
cotton pads before... but they are not absorbent enough. Not fluffy cotton
but more like "cotton rag".  And I *like* the ones with wings!
They definitely work much better. Now if they'd only figure out a way to 
avoid leaking in front or behind I wouldn't have to sleep on my sides all
the time.


#31 of 114 by popcorn on Sun Dec 12 15:58:34 1993:

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#32 of 114 by dana on Sun Dec 12 18:58:26 1993:

  #30  Make your own napkins from "cottong rag".  Make them
       really long with wings.  It wouldn't even have to 
        look real nice.  It would just have to be functional.


#33 of 114 by garima on Mon Dec 13 20:57:14 1993:

That's an idea.


#34 of 114 by asp on Sun Nov 27 05:11:30 1994:

My mom works in an operating room.  Girls have died from wearing tampons and
not telling anyone when they're getting an operation.  

Frankly, that scares me enough to not want to put anything inside of me that
could possibly kill me.  

About the plastic layer on most pads, there are brands, I can't remember right
off, that are "earth friendly" and the top layer is cotton, they absorb
great.

Speaking of absorbing, if anyone still reading knows, for the cloth ones, do
they absorb well?  Do you just throw them into the washer?  can you wash
anything else wiht them or do you have to save them all up until the end of the
week when you have them all?



#35 of 114 by popcorn on Thu Dec 1 15:06:13 1994:

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#36 of 114 by mta on Thu Dec 8 00:10:15 1994:

I use nothing but the cloth pads these days.  I like them, and I've had some
"humdingers" just lately.

I wash them in whatever cold water load I'm doing when I need them.  So
far they haven't stained anything else or done anything else
regrettable.  (I do rinse them as I remove them, and then store them in a
little bag of vinegar water til then.


#37 of 114 by dc on Thu Dec 8 23:36:24 1994:

I'm sorry, but it's not clear to me exactly why wearing a tampon 
during an operation would cause one to die.  Could someone
politely explain?


#38 of 114 by popcorn on Fri Dec 9 02:16:56 1994:

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#39 of 114 by popcorn on Fri Dec 9 02:17:03 1994:

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