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Grex Helpers Item 93: Grex System Problems [linked]
Entered by i on Sat Sep 23 03:36:40 UTC 2000:

This item is for system problems.  If something on Grex isn't working 
right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), 
this is the place to announce it.  Except for security holes.  If you 
find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".

188 responses total.



#1 of 188 by russ on Sat Sep 23 19:48:06 2000:

The usual group of immature twits is having a flood-fest in the
Summer conference.  Would some system person remove the write
permissions to that agora's directory, and bring a halt to it?
It might be worthwhile to do this to all previous agoras as well.


#2 of 188 by rcurl on Sat Sep 23 19:51:31 2000:

No. There are some important threads that continue there. There is not
good reason to automatically halt ongoing threads in any conference
just because a new one has been started. In fact, twits hanging out
there reduces their presence in the current agora.


#3 of 188 by drew on Sat Sep 23 21:55:38 2000:

It's possible to allow responses but disallow new items, isn't it?


#4 of 188 by keesan on Sat Sep 23 22:08:53 2000:

I would much rather the new items got entered in Summer instead of here.  In
fact it seems like an excellent division of topics.


#5 of 188 by mdw on Sun Sep 24 04:20:30 2000:

People problems are not system problems.  This is not a good place to
have a debate about policy.  The coop conference is the place to have
that kind of discussion.


#6 of 188 by birdy on Sun Sep 24 17:11:32 2000:

Exactly, and we've been over this in coop already.


#7 of 188 by russ on Mon Sep 25 00:33:44 2000:

Fork bombs are started by people too; does that make them not system
problems?

System problem:  It took 3 minutes to get a login prompt this evening.


#8 of 188 by krj on Mon Sep 25 00:59:56 2000:

Access to Grex via the internet is being very erratic.  From tir.com
I can't get in at all.  From msen.com I can get in sporadically with 
bad lag, connection hangs.  Not sure what the problem is, it probably
isn't local.  


#9 of 188 by mcnally on Mon Sep 25 01:19:30 2000:

  I'm not sure what the problem is but Grex is intermittently unpingable..


#10 of 188 by mooncat on Mon Sep 25 01:30:03 2000:

I had trouble coming for both backtalk and telnet when I tried 
grex.org, but no problem with cyberspace.org.... Just thought I'd 
mention it.


#11 of 188 by mdw on Mon Sep 25 02:20:21 2000:

Fork bombs aren't a problem.  So no, they don't qualify as either people
problems or system problems.


#12 of 188 by steve on Mon Sep 25 02:20:43 2000:

   Yes, Grex is having net problems tonight.  All of a sudden
things have appeared to get better (about 10:14pm).  WIth luck
this will continue...


#13 of 188 by keesan on Mon Sep 25 02:54:00 2000:

I had to dial in twice.  Once I connected, then it waited a while and
disconnected me. 5041 worked the second time.  Half an hour ago.  


#14 of 188 by davel on Mon Sep 25 12:31:59 2000:

I just had to dial in twice, also.  First time it gave me a burst of garbage
& then disconnected.


#15 of 188 by jerryr on Mon Sep 25 16:15:27 2000:

tried a while ago to log on via telnet.  was not successful.



#16 of 188 by ashke on Mon Sep 25 16:51:50 2000:

I have been telnetting, and I'm getting kicked off in the middle of looking
at the cfs (lag to death) and when I try and get back on it either takes a
million years, and then says I am so far back in queue, or it can't resolve
the IP address.  Ick.


#17 of 188 by arianna on Mon Sep 25 18:01:58 2000:

(weird. I'm in TX and haven't had any problems logging in.)


#18 of 188 by cmcgee on Mon Sep 25 18:18:30 2000:

I had a lot of disconnect problems last night.  I was dialing in and kept
getting halfway through my first email message, then kicked off.


#19 of 188 by ashke on Mon Sep 25 20:37:23 2000:

I got kicked off in the middle of reading something about 4 times before I
gave up.  Then I came back, and so far it is okay.


#20 of 188 by remmers on Mon Sep 25 22:14:07 2000:

Hm.  I telnet and almost never have disconnect problems.  Not much
lag problem either since the upgrade to DSL.  It'd be nice to
discover if there is some common factor for the people having
such problems.


#21 of 188 by i on Mon Sep 25 23:24:25 2000:

The scoop at work today was that Verio was having problems (a fairly
normal condition for them). 


#22 of 188 by scg on Tue Sep 26 04:18:42 2000:

The Net connection was being pretty flaky last night.  It wouldn't have been
Verio, though, connectivity from me to Grex doesn't go through Verio.


#23 of 188 by moneymak on Tue Sep 26 06:27:48 2000:

And unreachable too ...


#24 of 188 by keesan on Tue Sep 26 21:56:19 2000:

Just now I got frozen up in mid-composition of e-mail, could not telnet back
in four tries, but dialed in okay.


#25 of 188 by scott on Tue Sep 26 22:28:18 2000:

The network was way bogged down, partially due to a vandal trying to flood
another system.


#26 of 188 by albaugh on Wed Sep 27 04:13:29 2000:

I lost grex telnet connectivity around 6:30pm Tue 9/26, and backtalk couldn't
grex either.  I'm dialing in now, 12:15am Wed 9/27.


#27 of 188 by ea on Sat Sep 30 15:43:33 2000:

Backtalk seems to be running really slowly this morning.  It's not 
timing out, but it's taking much longer than usual.


#28 of 188 by mcnally on Sat Sep 30 21:08:44 2000:

  Lately I've been experiencing long delays between the time my telnet
  program reports connecting to Grex and the time the login prompt shows
  up, even when there's no queue..


#29 of 188 by gelinas on Sat Sep 30 21:15:54 2000:

I've noticed that delay, too.


#30 of 188 by tpryan on Sat Sep 30 22:55:26 2000:

        I've been getting that delay on the dial-up server.  This morning
I got disconnected by that thing instead of Grex proper.  Some message
about My Host don't know cyberspace.org or something like that.


#31 of 188 by scg on Sat Sep 30 23:52:14 2000:

Grex's named wasn't running, for some reason.


#32 of 188 by flem on Tue Oct 3 17:50:43 2000:

While running pine today, I got the following error message:
  ld.so: call to undefined procedure _sigpause from 0xef785528
Unsurprisingly, pine crashed. 


#33 of 188 by keesan on Thu Oct 5 00:22:14 2000:

I have gotten this message a few times, after a long delay when I tried to
send mail.


#34 of 188 by jp2 on Fri Oct 6 18:16:13 2000:

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#35 of 188 by rcurl on Fri Oct 6 19:03:38 2000:

After entering logout at the shell prompt, one gets another login
prompt. Responding exit sometimes logs out, and sometimes produces
yet another login prompt. I have not detected evident cause of sometimes
getting a second chance to login again, and sometimes not. Is there
method to the madness?


#36 of 188 by mdw on Fri Oct 6 20:02:03 2000:

Try "stty 9600" *BEFORE* connecting to grex.


#37 of 188 by rcurl on Sat Oct 7 05:04:29 2000:

I'm telneting in. 


#38 of 188 by mdw on Sat Oct 7 06:17:52 2000:

And?


#39 of 188 by bdh3 on Sat Oct 7 06:25:40 2000:

He's telnetting in.


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