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Grex Helpers Item 89: System Problems Item [linked]
Entered by i on Tue Mar 21 03:08:49 UTC 2000:

This item is for system problems.  If something on Grex isn't working 
right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), 
this is the place to announce it.  Except for security holes.  If you 
find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".

222 responses total.



#1 of 222 by hhsrat on Wed Mar 22 03:25:43 2000:

Grex seems to be acting slow lately, although it's probably just me, 
because a lot of other sites have been slow lately for me too.


#2 of 222 by arianna on Wed Mar 22 22:59:17 2000:

I believe we were low on disk space...


#3 of 222 by cmcgee on Thu Mar 23 15:27:07 2000:

I've been having sporadic trouble getting the modems to answer.  I'm dialing
in on both 3000 and 3411.  Sometimes I get a "does not answer" response from
my software, and sometimes I get connected but never get the "Welcome to Grex"
or a login prompt.  


#4 of 222 by jp2 on Thu Mar 30 15:43:49 2000:

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#5 of 222 by hhsrat on Sat Apr 1 19:01:26 2000:

It's April 1, and I haven't seen any evidence of the April Fools Day 
"pager jokes"  Do you have to be telnetted in to see them?


#6 of 222 by orinoco on Sat Apr 1 19:38:40 2000:

Read the MOTD lately?


#7 of 222 by tpryan on Sat Apr 1 20:33:46 2000:

        Should the collection of five names change on each login?


#8 of 222 by hhsrat on Sat Apr 1 21:22:21 2000:

the MOTD joke is fairly tame, compared to some of the stuff that's been 
done in the past.


#9 of 222 by carson on Sat Apr 1 21:37:19 2000:

(I vaguely remember something to staff saying that, with popcorn
focusing on arlo, others would have to pick up the April slack.
that might have been last year, tho'.)


#10 of 222 by janc on Sun Apr 2 05:44:21 2000:

I think everyone was busy this year.  April Fools!


#11 of 222 by remmers on Tue Apr 4 12:26:34 2000:

Hm, if I'd been around on April 1, I could have set up the
legendary Mary Poppins Filter.

Or perhaps not.


#12 of 222 by swa on Thu Apr 6 01:23:05 2000:

So what was in the MOTD?


#13 of 222 by davel on Thu Apr 6 01:46:31 2000:

A birthday announcement.  Unless it did change somehow, it was for 5 users
whose logins all began with "a", I think.


#14 of 222 by scg on Thu Apr 6 03:00:53 2000:

I think it may have been left over from last year.  I'm not sure if anybody
got around to doing anything here for April Fools this year.


#15 of 222 by spooked on Thu Apr 6 03:09:56 2000:

I *was* coming to the US for the board meeting (a day or so late, though:)


#16 of 222 by krj on Sat Apr 8 17:18:00 2000:

Grex is off the net.  scg reported in party that the P50 router at the 
Pumpkin was not responding to telnets from Grex, so he's going to 
reboot it unless someone else on the staff beats him to the pumpkin.


#17 of 222 by rcurl on Sat Apr 8 19:40:57 2000:

 3:39pm  up 19 days,  8:07,  3 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.01, 0.00
Login      Name               TTY  Idle  Login Time   Location   Work Phone
rcurl    Rane Curl            *pc        Apr  8 15:38
scg      Steve Gibbard         co        Apr  8 14:46
wplemmer William P. Lemmer    *sa     6  Apr  8 15:30

(I guess everyone is over on the walk.....)


#18 of 222 by tpryan on Wed Apr 12 23:09:25 2000:

        Could not get a connect thru on 3000.  Had to dial 5041.


#19 of 222 by krj on Sat Apr 15 12:43:02 2000:

/var is full, and this seems to have broken party.  When I entered party,
I got the "/var full" message, and I could do nothing further except
break the connection to Grex.


#20 of 222 by richard on Sat Apr 22 06:23:24 2000:

hey, I got a  message that Im moare than halfway to my "mailbox quota"..
when did grex institute a mailbox quota?  I dont remember seeing any
discussion about this.  I'd hate to see grex become too militaristic...
whats next file quotas>


#21 of 222 by scg on Sat Apr 22 06:29:40 2000:

Both have been around for years.


#22 of 222 by senna on Sat Apr 22 08:00:58 2000:

Many, many years.  I've been hovering near my quota for at least three.


#23 of 222 by richard on Sat Apr 22 19:46:56 2000:

hmm..maybe I just hadnt noticed, Im probably rarely near the levels where
quota message need to be sent out


#24 of 222 by mdw on Sat Apr 22 22:03:09 2000:

Grex has mailbox quotas because otherwise there would be no disk space
for incoming mail.  For a few years, grex staff tried to handle this
"manually", but when the usual procedure became (more & more often)
delete the offending account (because usually the person couldn't be
contacted, hmm!) mailbox quotas went into effect.  When the quota is
exceeded, grex will no longer accept mail.  We tried using a "temporary"
failure for this at first (which means if you caught it quickly enough,
you wouldn't lose any mail) but we had to give that up as well & return
a permament error because some mailers, when they get a temporary error,
try again right away, and grex couldn't afford the CPU to keep rejecting
that mail many times a minute.


#25 of 222 by hhsrat on Mon Apr 24 22:59:56 2000:

I had a rather unusual occurance with BackTalk today.  I tried to 
connect at www.cyberspace.org/cgi-bin/bt and it timed out.  When I tried 
www.grex.org/cgi-bin/bt everything worked fine.


#26 of 222 by jp2 on Tue Apr 25 14:51:00 2000:

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#27 of 222 by otaking on Tue Apr 25 15:06:04 2000:

I hit CNTL-X to send an e-mail, only to get the message "illegal command: core
dumped" The system froze until I exited out of the program entirely.


#28 of 222 by janc on Wed Apr 26 01:00:46 2000:

I don't think there is any difference between the names 'grex.org' and
'cyberspace.org'.  There may be some weird situations where Backtalk is
temporarily slow in responding (due to a locked file or some such). 
This is especially likely when the load on Grex is high.


#29 of 222 by hematite on Fri Apr 28 16:57:00 2000:

Is ther any particular reason why in the middle of reading Agora through
backtalk that I can't get into backtalk at all? I was halfway done when I 
was asked for my password, after typing it in a half a dozen times it
still won't let me connect and now I'm logged in through telnet, which is
working fine. Help?


#30 of 222 by krj on Fri Apr 28 17:40:17 2000:

/var is full, bringing party to a complete halt.


#31 of 222 by jor on Fri Apr 28 17:42:58 2000:

confirmed, not that confirmation was needed


#32 of 222 by drew on Fri Apr 28 19:53:32 2000:

Party is complaining that /var is full. (/var/spool/mail is a separate
partition, and thus not to blame.)


#33 of 222 by krj on Fri Apr 28 20:33:24 2000:

/var got better for a little while but it is full again.


#34 of 222 by scott on Fri Apr 28 22:01:51 2000:

Wish I knew what was filling it up. :(


#35 of 222 by krj on Fri Apr 28 22:16:52 2000:

/var has gone this afternoon from 100%, down a little bit, then up 
to 103% and now 105%.


#36 of 222 by krj on Sat Apr 29 18:22:15 2000:

Today's problem is that telnet connections are being very unstable.
See the party log over the last hour to read lots of people, from 
different ISPs, whining about being dropped or having connections
freeze.


#37 of 222 by atticus on Sun Apr 30 14:14:53 2000:

Re #29: The same thing happened to me too; a couple of times in the last 
few days.


#38 of 222 by jor on Mon May 1 18:12:01 2000:

        something very funny is going on.
        there seems to be no lag at all.

        well that's an exaggeration but still.
         this is very unusual.



#39 of 222 by janc on Sun May 7 04:13:55 2000:

I think /var/log/bt_crash.log is filling it up.  Backtalk seems to be
crashing a lot.  I've turned off logging of this for a bit, but haven't
removed the last file put there, because I need time to analyze it some
more.


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