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Grex Helpers Item 60: System Problems [linked]
Entered by valerie on Mon Jun 16 13:01:26 UTC 1997:

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#1 of 364 by scott on Sat Jun 21 21:01:52 1997:

 Grex is currently having some flow-control problems with the slow modem 
group.  If your modem has flow-control, you should turn it on.  If not, 
then try dialing into 761- 5041.  This will connect you to some 
different modems that do not have the problem.


#2 of 364 by valerie on Sun Jun 22 04:44:02 1997:

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#3 of 364 by senna on Sun Jun 22 05:36:37 1997:

For some reason, I typed read new and only got items #1 and #12.  The others
didn't show up.  this could be a problem in the future


#4 of 364 by srw on Sun Jun 22 06:46:22 1997:

No this is normal picospan behavior. Try read unseen.


#5 of 364 by senna on Sun Jun 22 07:10:11 1997:

is it?  well, it's working again.


#6 of 364 by atticus on Sun Jun 22 09:07:01 1997:

'backtalk' crashes when i try to read item #4 of the conference
"archive". it also says that the error has been logged.

<i had reported this once before>


#7 of 364 by remmers on Sun Jun 22 10:32:45 1997:

Re #3-#5: The first time you join a new conference, the 'read'
command shows you only the first and last items. This is so that
when a person joins a large conference, they won't be
overwhelmed with reading material. On subsequent joins, 'read'
shows you items to which new material has been added.


#8 of 364 by scott on Sun Jun 22 14:45:59 1997:

Oops, mdw  is right.

If your modem has error-correction, you should turn it on.


#9 of 364 by senna on Sun Jun 22 22:22:51 1997:

read new, as well?


#10 of 364 by valerie on Sun Jun 22 22:30:22 1997:

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#11 of 364 by valerie on Sun Jun 22 22:31:25 1997:

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#12 of 364 by senna on Mon Jun 23 06:26:31 1997:

are they?  that's odd.  I've gotten full reads that I ahven't particularly
desired by not typiing in "new"


#13 of 364 by srw on Mon Jun 23 18:04:15 1997:

I wonder if the dark backround in agora and the reversed out text, as 
seen by backtalk, can be considered a system problem.

Probably not, but I am very unfond of it.


#14 of 364 by toking on Mon Jun 23 19:05:56 1997:

At least it's not as bad as auction <with all the buttons black, all the
time>



#15 of 364 by mag on Tue Jun 24 00:33:41 1997:

thanks remmmers, that's a cool idea...and it makes perfect sense (I had the
same prob. as senna)


#16 of 364 by remmers on Tue Jun 24 13:06:10 1997:

Re #13: In choosing color mixes for web pages that are basically
text, I find Dave Siegel's advice to be very helpful. White or
very pastel backgrounds and black text work best. See Siegel's
"Web Wonk" pages at http://www.dsiegel.com .


#17 of 364 by atticus on Tue Jun 24 16:15:25 1997:

re #13: i am using backtalk_pistachio and i *love* this dark
blue b/g -- in fact much better than the pale green one.


#18 of 364 by mag on Tue Jun 24 23:34:35 1997:

I agree with #17 :-)


#19 of 364 by valerie on Wed Jun 25 03:03:10 1997:

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#20 of 364 by mcnally on Wed Jun 25 04:41:03 1997:

  Hmmm..  The spectrum is generally described as being made up of 
  7 colors (red, orange, yellow, blue, indigo, violet..) and color
  wheels usually show red, greeen, blue or cyan, magenta, yellow
  and combinations thereof.

  I think when you speak of "white or one of the other 16 colors"
  you're betraying your PC-centrism (and outdated PC-centrism at 
  that since I suspect you're talking about the astonishingly ugly
  CGA (or were they EGA?) colors..


#21 of 364 by valerie on Wed Jun 25 05:00:20 1997:

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#22 of 364 by valerie on Wed Jun 25 05:11:45 1997:

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#23 of 364 by scg on Wed Jun 25 06:05:09 1997:

I generally find that almost anything on a dark blue background is hard to
read.


#24 of 364 by yenny1 on Wed Jun 25 06:30:21 1997:

I'm using backtalk most of the time.The color scheme for summer agora 
looks ok to me. It very appropriate I think, summer and sea - swimming, 
surfing etc.

Maybe the color for each agora should be associated with the season:
summer - blue 
spring - whatever soft color of the flowers
fall - ? ( no idea what the best color to represent fall )
winter - white : snow 

The color for cooking conf. does look a bit too bright for the eyes.


#25 of 364 by danr on Wed Jun 25 12:26:48 1997:

I didn't like the white on blue at first, but now I've gotten used to it.


#26 of 364 by dang on Wed Jun 25 16:11:59 1997:

I always use a light color (yellow, gold, white, grey, green, etc) on a dark
color (dkblue, black, dkred, etc) for my text entry boxes.  By favorite color
combos are blue on black and gold on black.  I personally hate light
backgrounds with dark text.  So thanks, Valerie. :)


#27 of 364 by n8nxf on Wed Jun 25 19:06:28 1997:

I played with the color combinations on this term program.  I like light
blue on black.


#28 of 364 by dang on Wed Jun 25 19:37:57 1997:

That's my current favorite too.  I even set up my Win 95 colors with those.


#29 of 364 by valerie on Wed Jun 25 20:22:39 1997:

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#30 of 364 by remmers on Thu Jun 26 00:12:02 1997:

Re #26: How do you feel about reading books, magazines, and
newspapers?


#31 of 364 by n8nxf on Thu Jun 26 11:36:01 1997:

re #30:  Some reading disabilities / problems have been resolved simply
by placing a colored filter over black text on a white page.


#32 of 364 by remmers on Thu Jun 26 12:40:19 1997:

My point was the the whole print world is standardized on black
text on light (usually white or near-white) background.

Just had a look at agora in backtalk. I find it hard to read.
And aesthetically, those bright green buttons on a dark blue
background don't work at all.

My monitor settings: 16-bit color depth (i.e. "hicolor",
thousands of colors), 12-point courier font, approx 75 pixels
per inch.


#33 of 364 by dpc on Thu Jun 26 13:39:07 1997:

I'd really prefer that we stick to (near-)white background and black
text.  Anything else makes it likely that text-oriented types will
not want to read it.


#34 of 364 by toking on Thu Jun 26 15:04:10 1997:

I'm curious if there is any good reason why backtalk goes funky whenever
I hit the "NEXT CONF" button from agora.

It only seems to happen when there are no new responces in the rest of
my Conf's.


#35 of 364 by danr on Thu Jun 26 20:13:53 1997:

I use white text on a blue background when using my telnet client, and
it looks great. The difference is that the telnet client uses the Terminal
font while Backtalk uses the <pre> tag around responses, meaning
my browser displays the text in New Courier.  New Courier is much
less readable on a blue background.

I tried changing the fixed-width font to Terminal, but MSIE doesn't seem
to want to let me do that.


#36 of 364 by mag on Thu Jun 26 22:21:59 1997:

No matter which colour combinations BackTalk uses, not everyone will be
satisfied...so lets just pick a different colour for every season - like
Valerie hinted at.


#37 of 364 by coyote on Thu Jun 26 23:06:31 1997:

Hmmm... my computer uses white text on a blue background no matter what I tell
it to!  Silly Apple IIGS... :)


#38 of 364 by mag on Thu Jun 26 23:51:30 1997:

beat it up coyote:-)


#39 of 364 by scott on Fri Jun 27 01:14:21 1997:

 I, for one, like the current color combination.  Looks good both at 
home and at work.  


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