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Grex Helpers Item 146: Grex System Announcements - Winter 2005/06
Entered by i on Fri Dec 23 04:28:30 UTC 2005:

This item is for system announcements (new computer equipment on Grex, 
system upgrades, Grex meetings, etc.).  Personal announcements should go 
back in item 2; Grex system *problems* belong in the next item (#4). 

34 responses total.



#1 of 34 by steve on Mon Jan 2 10:56:54 2006:

   Grex now has a new kernel (heart of the os), which should fix
the crashing problem we were having ever 5 days or so.


#2 of 34 by mary on Mon Jan 2 11:43:27 2006:

Thanks, STeve.  Just curious - how many hours worth of time
did that task take you?


#3 of 34 by cross on Mon Jan 2 15:17:26 2006:

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#4 of 34 by tod on Tue Jan 3 00:28:30 2006:

re #3
Hey..some people like to re-seat RAM and others like to buy new ones, ok?
Maybe it was a re-install of the same kernel over the old one? ;)


#5 of 34 by steve on Tue Jan 3 05:48:27 2006:

   Mary, it took likely about 8 hours total, but most of that time
was fighting getting the new source code.  The "CVS server", the
entity that lets you get new versions of the code was flaky and
it took several attempts to get the updates for the kernel.  Once
I got that it took less than an hour to build a new one, and a
few hours testing it to make sure that it was reasonable.

   Yes, I agree that the 3.8 patches are in a weird state: they
should be more readily announced.  I knew of them since I see
the changes in the CVS logs.


#6 of 34 by keesan on Tue Jan 3 13:58:09 2006:

I guess grex is contributing to OpenBSD development by crashing, or don't we
report problems?


#7 of 34 by cross on Tue Jan 3 15:43:58 2006:

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#8 of 34 by tod on Tue Jan 3 17:49:26 2006:

Grex, then. Right?


#9 of 34 by jep on Tue Jan 3 19:13:57 2006:

Grex's certificate is expired since August 6, 2005.

I am not sure why Grex and M-Net installed certificates in the first 
place, but if they've got to be there, they ought to be kept up to date.


#10 of 34 by steve on Thu Jan 5 18:08:05 2006:

   We'd report problems Sindi, if we encounter new ones.  So far,
we haven't.   Thats simply not true Dan, but I'm not going to 
argue that point.


#11 of 34 by remmers on Sat Jan 7 14:47:02 2006:

Nominations are open to fill the Grex board of directors vacancies
created by the resignations of Steve Van Loon (vanloons) and David
Cahill (dpc).  See Coop item 305 for more information and to make
nominations.


#12 of 34 by gelinas on Sun Jan 8 02:11:55 2006:

See http://www.cyberspace.org/local/grex/bod.html for a list of current and
former Directors.


#13 of 34 by naftee on Sun Jan 8 04:34:57 2006:

unluckyt !


#14 of 34 by cross on Mon Jan 9 14:14:22 2006:

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#15 of 34 by remmers on Mon Jan 23 16:12:19 2006:

The polls are open now through February 6 in the special election to fill
two unexpired terms on the Grex Board of Directors.  For more information,
or to cast a ballot, type 'vote' at a Unix shell prompt, '!vote' at most
other prompts, or go to https://grex.org/cgi-bin/pw/voting-booth on the
web.

It's a non-competitive election (two candidates, two slots), but you should
vote anyway.  :)  As usual, any Grex user can vote, but only the votes of
members in good standing will be counted in determining the pre-ordained
outcome.  For information on becoming a member, type 'support' at a Unix
shell prompt, '!support' elsewhere, or go to http://grex.org/member.html
on the web.


#16 of 34 by steve on Sat Feb 4 07:05:58 2006:

   Grex was rebooted Saturday morning to effect a change I just made.
In Janurary I made a new kernel for the system, which had a fix for
the "soft dependency" problem in the stock 3.8 release.  This fix 
has made the softdep situation better, in that we were up for 26
days before a crash.  It's still variable however when the problem
crops up, and we crashed after 4 days this last time.

   So, the system isn't going to use them any more.  The effect here
is that disk writes will take longer, or rather that writes won't be
done independantly of other things.  I do not think this is going to
slow Grex down much, if at all.


#17 of 34 by keesan on Sat Feb 4 13:37:33 2006:

Thanks, STeve.


#18 of 34 by naftee on Sat Feb 4 22:46:51 2006:

THanks, steVE.


#19 of 34 by cross on Mon Feb 6 20:34:55 2006:

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#20 of 34 by nharmon on Tue Feb 7 00:46:39 2006:

Because Theo don't want it that way Dan. How dare you question Theo! :P


#21 of 34 by steve on Tue Feb 7 01:47:44 2006:

   FreeBSD has had problems with softupdates as well Dan.  I know know
of some folks who have tuned them off for both Open and FreeBSD.


#22 of 34 by cross on Wed Feb 8 01:05:18 2006:

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#23 of 34 by nharmon on Wed Feb 8 01:42:53 2006:

I remember it well...


#24 of 34 by jep on Wed Feb 8 02:41:36 2006:

Governor Jennifer M. Granholm today ordered United States flags to be
flown at half-staff throughout the state of Michigan today through
Wednesday, February 8, in honor of Coretta Scott King.  The Governor s
order follows a similar proclamation issued by the President for federal
buildings. 

In addition to ordering flags lowered to half-staff, Granholm will
proclaim Friday, February 10, Coretta Scott King Day in the state of
Michigan.


#25 of 34 by naftee on Wed Feb 8 04:17:00 2006:

Anyone who fancies having sex right now shall commence the lowering of pants.


#26 of 34 by tod on Wed Feb 8 04:57:02 2006:

IWLTA I am drinking Diet Coke with Splenda.
The glass is half full.


#27 of 34 by nharmon on Wed Feb 8 12:56:57 2006:

Now it is half empty.


#28 of 34 by sholmes on Wed Feb 8 15:40:10 2006:



#29 of 34 by sholmes on Wed Feb 8 15:40:45 2006:

Stop using oversized glass.


#30 of 34 by jep on Tue Mar 14 19:55:39 2006:

The Grex status page says Grex is up... and that the status was updated 
on February 3.

Is there a way to have the system update this with the current date-
time stamp, perhaps once per hour?  Maybe a cron job could add a date-
time stamp to a file and then FTP the file over to the status page on 
HVCN or something.

If I were having trouble connecting, that status message would not do 
much to reassure me that Grex is working and the problem is on my end.


#31 of 34 by other on Wed Mar 15 07:32:50 2006:

What you suggest doesn't make a lot of sense.  If Grex were down, it
would not be able to update the page to that effect.  

What would make sense is if the status page could have a script that
pings Grex once an hour and reports the results and the timestamp.

Staff could manually edit the page in case of an outage to supply
additional information...

SRW, what do you think?  Is this a reasonable possibility?


#32 of 34 by jep on Wed Mar 15 14:35:18 2006:

Eric, if Grex cannot update the page, it would be a sign that Grex is 
down, wouodn't it?  Make the message say:

   Grex was up as of 03/15/2006 09:30 a.m.

If it is scheduled to update it every 10 minutes, and you see it hasn't 
been updated for a day, then Grex is down.

I don't know which would provide better information, a ping or having 
Grex update an offsite page, but either would provide some information.

If Grex is down because of staff work, then a staffer could provide 
additional information as it becomes available.


#33 of 34 by cross on Wed Mar 15 15:08:39 2006:

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#34 of 34 by wilt on Tue May 16 23:51:25 2006:

HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL

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