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This item is for system problems. If something on Grex isn't working right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), this is the place to announce it. Except for security holes. If you find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".
457 responses total.
so like what's up with the huge help banner thing that greeted me. I was so scared I had to whack the space-bar several times to wake myself up.
Agora has a big welcome/help banner that only shows up the first time you enter the conference. When the seasonal agora rolls, though, the system probably isn't clever enough to check whether you're an existing user (of the prior-season agora).
Ahh, indeed.
Backtalk and fronttalk both hang when I try to enter the conference. I'm posting this from Picospan, which does work.
FrontTalk is working for me.
The 'HELP' option from the 'menu' program does not work: tail: /usr/local/lib/menus/dialogs/help_doc: No such file or directory
I'm finding it impossible to access agora via backtalk. No problems getting inot other confs. Entering this via telnet, which seems fine...
Backtalk is working for me now. I think it was having problems with the new conference, but once Picospan had me registered in it, everything worked.
Backtalk crasheth for me:
ERROR: terminated by signal 11
executing "get_conf_note" on line 159 of pistachio/confhome.bt
Version: Backtalk version 1.3.20
Stack:
(Agora)
( has )
10
( )
(items)
(: )
10
( brand new, )
0
( with new responses.<P>)
(<FORM ACTION=read>\n<TABLE CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 WIDTH=100%>\n<TR><TD
VALIGN=top>\n)
MARK[0]
(1-$)
User Dictionary 0:
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best=[...] alinkcolor=() highcolor=(FF0000)
fw_button_src=(SRC=/backtalk-1.3.1\
8/image/pistachio/brd/button.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16 BORDER=0 ALT="=>">)
global_header={...} regbutton=(bgn) respnumber=() delim=(,:;/ )
entrance_button=(<IMG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/entrance.gif
HE\
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SRC=/backtalk-1\
.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/itemlist.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=54 BORDER=0 ALT="Item
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anon_url=(/cgi-bin/backtalk/) itemnumber=() breg=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/im\
age/pistachio/bgn/) adm_url=(/cgi-bin/adm/backtalk/) textcolor=() linkcolor=()
nonextconf_button=(<IMG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/ggn/nextconf.gif
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HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=71 BORDER=0 ALT="No Next Conference">) minbrow=0 nnr=0
bgcolor=(FFFFCC) help_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/he\
lp.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=32 BORDER=0 ALT=Help>) curr=[...] bgimage=()
button=(<I\
MG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/button.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16
BORD\
ER=0 ALT=->>) admbutton=(brd) confhome_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/im\
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button_src=(SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/button\
.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16 BORDER=0 ALT=->>) badm=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/i\
mage/pistachio/brd/) bodyline=(<BODY BGCOLOR=FFFFCC>\n)
noreadnew_button=(<IMG\
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/ggn/readnew.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=65
BORDE\
R=0 ALT="No Read New">) confname=(agora) skip=0 fw_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-\
1.3.18/image/pistachio/brd/button.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16 BORDER=0
ALT="=>">)
no_button=(<IMG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/ggn/button.gif HEIGHT=16
\
WIDTH=16 BORDER=0 ALT="--">) nextconf_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/\
pistachio/bgn/nextconf.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=62 BORDER=0 ALT="Next Conference">)
login=(<PRE>Welcome to the Spring 2005 Agora!\nYour Host: Katie Geddes\n\nNew
\
Users: Welcome to Grex!\n\nThis conference has been restarted. Type
"joi\
n winter" for the old version.\n\n</PRE>\n) readnew_button=(<IMG
SRC=/bac\
ktalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/readnew.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=65 BORDER=0
ALT="\
Read New">)
System Dictionary:
anonymity=0 since=@0 author_erase=1 texttype=() amadm=0 mayhide=0
http_headers=1 fw_retitle=1 blindfold=0 resp=0 editdate=@0 hidden=0 id=()
http_expires=@0 uid=-1 newbie=0 linktonew=1 sessions=0 homedir=()
yapp_format=0 mayread=1 mayedit=0 ifav=1 expire_session=3600 mayretire=0
canspell=1 flavor=() lastdate=@0
scriptdir=(/usr/local/lib/backtalk-1.3.18/scr\
ipt) parentresp=0 saverep=0 fishbowl=0 maxresp=0 spell_lang=() expect_resp=0
userlist=0 authorid=() spell_ignore=() authorname=() fw_erase=0
author_retire=1 csel=() http_location=() maypost=0 conf=(agora)
copyright=(Cop\
yright 1996-2004, Jan Wolter and Steve Weiss) conflist=(/bbs/conflist)
authoruid=0 conftitle=(Agora) [=mark isel=() linked=0 `=mark loglevel=0
cpass=() secret=0 canattach=0 fwlist=(katie) canemail=0 auto_recompile=1
progname=(backtalk) grouplist=0 exec_limit=0 forgotten=0 maxread=0 mark=mark
showforgotten=0 mayseefname=1 publicflavors=(public) author_kill=1
http_no_cache=0 urlarg=(agora) bbsdir=(/bbs/) dbtype=() fw_hide=0
allowgraphics=1 alias=() stack_limit=0 nopwedit=1 attachments=() gid=-1 item=0
author_retitle=1 author_hide=1 frozen=0 scriptname=() mayfreeze=0 editfrozen=1
fw_edit=0 linkdate=@0 mayretitle=0 cgiquery=() newuseropen=0 amfw=0
post_log_file=() secure=1 rfav=2 http_content_type=(text/html) maxitem=10
author_edit=0 mayresp=0 readdate=@0 author_freeze=1 allowanon=1 title=()
mayseealias=1 maykill=0 noskip=0 confdir=(/bbs/agora53) particip=(.agora53.cf)
erased=0 date=@0 favicon=(/usr/local/www/favicon.ico) timezone=() text=()
retired=0 loginlen=8 rsel=(new) mayerase=0
Environment: DOCUMENT_ROOT=/usr/local/www
HTTP_ACCEPT=text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,tex
t/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET=ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING=gzip,deflate
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE=en-gb,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3 HTTP_CONNECTION=keep-alive
HTTP_HOST=www.cyberspace.org HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE=300
HTTP_REFERER=http://www.cyberspace.org/ HTTP_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/5.0 (X11;
U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050115 Firefox/1.0 PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
REMOTE_ADDR=81.179.66.29 REMOTE_PORT=48852
SCRIPT_FILENAME=/usr/local/libexec/cgi-bin/backtalk SERVER_ADDR=216.86.77.194
SERVER_ADMIN=webmaster@cyberspace.org SERVER_NAME=www.cyberspace.org
SERVER_PORT=80 SERVER_SIGNATURE=<ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.29 Server at <A
HREF="mailto:webmaster@cyberspace.org">www.cyberspace.org</A> Port
80</ADDRESS> SERVER_SOFTWARE=Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_perl/1.27 mod_ssl/2.8.16
OpenSSL/0.9.7c GATEWAY_INTERFACE=CGI/1.1 SERVER_PROTOCOL=HTTP/1.1
REQUEST_METHOD=GET QUERY_STRING= REQUEST_URI=/cgi-bin/backtalk/peek:agora
SCRIPT_NAME=/cgi-bin/backtalk PATH_INFO=/peek:agora
PATH_TRANSLATED=/usr/local/www/peek:agora
That was very entertaining. I especially liked the "HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE=300" bit. I was experiencing extreme Backtalk slowness in Agora a few minutes ago (but not in other cf's), but it seems to have cleared up.
both yesterday and today I have been all but unable to get into agora via backtalk. The other conferences come up right away, but agora doesn't seem to come up at all
Since the move to Co-lo, there have been numerous CRC errors and such during downloads via lsz through direct-dialed connections, that almost never occurred before the move. I think the last time I downloaded with lsz was day before yesterday.
re #11 agora seems to be coming up fine now
Grex Web Server Statistics at:
http://www.cyberspace.org/stats/
is currently reporting for time ranges no later than:
October 03-October 09 2004
Is it possible to access current data at some other URL?
I suspect that whatever script that was, it doesn't work correctly on the new operating system.
I haven't been able to access Backtalk from either home or work all week. I still can't tonight.
That is weird jep. I havent had any trouble with backtalk at all. I am using it right now as a matter of fact.
picospan quit randomly on me a moment ago byte 1655 [Press space to continue, 'q' to quit.]zsh: terminated bbs ... but seems fine now (0805 est)
Last night when I posted resp:16, I was seeing a big delay upon logon. I left the browser window open and used putty to connect instead, and a few minutes after I complained, Backtalk came up and was fine from then on. It's working fine now, too.
Re resp:19: For some reason, backtalk can't seem to handle initializing this conference. If you visit this conference first in Picospan, it works after that.
I have never visited this conference in picospan and I havent had any trouble
It appears to be time - if not past time - to block the IP addresses used by a certain set of twits.
Vanilla interface of Backtalk does not seem to respect user filter options.
someone should fix the vanilla interface on GreX :(
russ, been there, done that, got the t-shirt, don't need to do it again.
re 24 Whoa, I meant "m-net"
I scribbled a few responses in coop. Each time I scribbled a response, BBS segfaulted. Could this possibly be a result of i's recent idiocy?
backtalk seems to scribble fine.
Hmmm...Picospan also dies with "Memory fault" for me; it doesn't seem to matter if i'm a fw or not. (The scribble does take place. When i go back to look at it, Picospan looks like it's having to fix up the sum file, though.) I wonder if this is an issue with our BSD port of PicoSpan. Any other circumstances where you've noticed Picospan bombing?
I noticed errors after you unilaterally deleted benign user comments in coop.
I tried to telnet in earlier andd all th ports were in use. That has not happened in a while.
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Why, I like and prefer picospan.
Me too.
Ditto
DITTO
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The difference is that I abhor GUI usage the way Unabomber abhors the industrial revolution. To me, replacing picospan with a browser friendly version would be like NPR producing some kind of Fear Factor reality segment.
I pefer picospan because it is a simple text interface. I prefer text e-mail also, also for simplicity and speed. Here is my .sig file: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NB. To prevent HTML code from being sent with e-mail, see instructions at http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/nomime.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I want to apply this to conferencing too.
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