This item is for system announcements (new computer equipment on Grex, 
system upgrades, Grex meetings, etc.).  Personal announcements should go 
back in item 2; Grex system *problems* belong in the next item (#4). 

107 responses total.

NextGreX?

I just locked willcome's account because of his script that created some one
hundred new items in agora.

I asked him to stop first:

} # tel willcome 
} willcome logged on more than once
} Telegram to ttyp4...
} Msg: please stop re-entering the same item, over and over, in agora
} SENT
} #
} line 1/51 (END)Telegram from willcome on ttyp4 at 20:03 EST ...
} It's Greek Week.
} EOF (willcome)
} 
} # 
} # !tel 
} tel willcome
} willcome logged on more than once
} Telegram to ttyp4...
} Msg: That is no excuse.  Please stop.
} SENT
} # 

You might want to stop all known accounts owned by dah/willcome/The Supreme
Jerkoff, and block his ip. Better yet, back all of Canada's IP's until they
launch him into Space.

back=block.

Preferably without a space suit.

Re. 5:  First of all, it's inappropriate to discuss this matter here.  You
know that.

Secondly, you had absolutely no reason to ruin Greek Week, an event sponsored
by the silly hat fund and meant to revive, review, and discuss Grex's Greek
history.

Entering the entire text of Plato's Republic multiple times is not, never has
been, and never will be acceptable behavior.  Even entering it once was way
overboard.

That was the entire text? Wow.

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Re. 9:  First of all, it's THE Republic.

Secondly, it's entirely acceptable, and, in fact, encouraged by Grex's Greek
theme.

It is a gross misuse of resources.  And naming one conference with a Greek
name does not give Grex and "Greek theme."

Re. 13:  nonsense.  It was using the resources to promote Grex's Greek theme,
which it does indeed have, in its own name, in the name of Agora, in its
supposed commitment to free speech, and, among other things, in its collegial
atmosphere.

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I announced it here to forestall the questions that would have arisen
when your items were discovered.  I'm hoping folks will see the report
here before they run into the items and start asking there.  I also expect
they'll ask what was done to stop the flood.

(I should note that the very fact Mrs AndrE didn't know about Grex's Greek
theme shows the need for education campaings such as the one Mr GelinaS
censored.)

Mrs. Andre has been involved with Grex since before there was Grex.  She knows
a hell of a lot more about Grex then a little trouble making twirp like you
ever will.  Someone should talk to your parents and find out why you were
never given the discipline that you so obviously need.

Yes, I know.  That's why it's so stunning you don't know about its Greek
theme.

I just gave up trying to do b n to find out what went wrong with agora and
was able to do b 1-10 n and read about this problem.  I only found about 64
new items, which I hope have been deleted by now, and a lot of (ignored) new
responses which I will have to plow through.  

Does Willcome have another email address to which we can all send large
unwanted emails every day for the next month?

Thanks, Joe.  I'd sure support all but one of the items
being killed.  People with slow connections are going
to have a hard time slogging though this vandalism.

Try willcome@cyberspace.org.

(slip.)

Re. 21:  I understand why you think you want that, Mrs Remmers.  All the items
are virtually identical, and, it therefore seems that all meaning would be
retained by keeping just a single item.  However, I think there's a certain
artistic meaning which can only be given by posting it dozens of times. 
Censoring some of the items would undoubtably remove this meaning.

Bullshit

(It should be noted that most every item willcome posted has posts from other
accounts or users, and are therefore distinct.)

Re. 25:  Why do you hate fun things like Greek Week?

"last pid: 18530;  load averages:  3.77,  5.38,  5.79                  
22:07:05
193 processes: 186 sleeping, 3 running, 4 stopped
CPU states: 22.2% user,  0.0% nice, 18.9% system, 44.7% idle, 14.2% spin
Memory: 233M available, 231M in use, 2108K free, 8028K locked

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
 6672 bhoward   88    0  348K  352K run/1   2:26 89.42% 74.22% bbs
14196 mary       3    0  356K  416K sleep   4:36  0.00% 12.89% bbs"

Of course, Greek Week used fewer resources than either of those STAFF MEMBERS
AND BOARD MEMBERS AND ETC MEMBERs.

I for one, am shocked at the virtually scandalous behaviour exhibited by GreX
members and staffers.  They have clearly shown here that they are ignorant
and slanderous of both Canadian and Greek cultures.  I demand that the willcome
account be returned to its rightful owner.

Bullshit.  Clear and obvious vandalism.

I think it's time we contacted polytarp's ISP.

Wow. Harsh words. I'm sure their ISP will hop-to, just like they did last year
when M-Net was having the same problem with polytarp & co.

If they have membership rights here, take them away. That seems to be the only
thing that got 'em bent out of shape last time.

It would be interesting to see how far they would make it on
the Well.  This sort of behaviour only tends to have an impact
on communities that provide little to now barrier to entry
such as m-net and grex.

This type of stuff happens from time to time, and yes, making it 
really easy to get an account and be up and posting does make it far 
easier for the vandal.  But it also makes it much easier for every 
other new user to get into the discussions and be part of the 
community.  Worth the infrequent disruption, by far, in my opinion.

There are ways to minimize this type of vandalism.  A lot of it has 
to do with not rewarding this behavior with lots of attention.

I still see '63 new items' - have they been deleted?  I am doing a read 1-10
n instead of r n.

So what's the deal going to be?  Is this going to be a 'letter versus spirit'
issue?  Will we have to write down every usual polite civil unwritten behavior
as a member proposal in order to have things like this stop?

PS it's the weekend and I'll be honest and say that waking up to see this
kind of behavior sure doesn't motivate me to work hard on NextGrex.

Do I really want to hurry the day when someone like willcome can use a more
powerful machine to more quickly and completely cause chaos because it amuses
him?

The consistent use of "they" in referral to willcome clearly shows the
attitude the GreX staff and members have towards users they consider
"outsiders".  This I consider absolute rubbish.  It sure doesn't motivate new
users to get a membership with a corporation who obviously doesn't want it.

There are no "outsiders" on Grex - but there are certainly jerks and
vandals. Even then, we only poke fun at jerks - but vandals are
totally unacceptable. I have no interest in vandals getting a Grex
membership in order to cause everyone trouble.

NB:  polytarp, dah and willcome are separate userIDs, so "they" is an
appropriate pronound to use for those userIDs.

Oh, so you admit that userIDs are the problem, and not the people who own
them?  In that case, you should have no problem with contacting or banning
anyone's ISP.

I chopped willcome's Plato out of item #18; that leaves one copy in 
item #100 for now.  Also rebuild the sum file in case it'd do any good.

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