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Grex Helpers Item 119: Grex System *Problems* [linked]
Entered by i on Sun Jun 22 21:34:58 UTC 2003:

This item is for system problems.  If something on Grex isn't working 
right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), 
this is the place to announce it.  Except for security holes.  If you 
find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".

237 responses total.



#1 of 237 by keesan on Mon Jun 23 21:05:14 2003:

I am not seeing all the item numbers when I read agora.  I see item 12, and
then there are at least two items after that for which I see the responses
by numbers but not the item number, title, or description (these are new
items, I presume).  I dial in.


#2 of 237 by mynxcat on Mon Jun 23 21:19:21 2003:

Could be because they're entered by someone on your twit filter?


#3 of 237 by polytarp on Mon Jun 23 21:50:19 2003:

It's rather likely.


#4 of 237 by keesan on Mon Jun 23 23:44:56 2003:

Might be.  They are also not there when I type 'b'.  It stops at 12.


#5 of 237 by mynxcat on Tue Jun 24 00:03:15 2003:

They;ve been entered by polytarp.


#6 of 237 by tsty on Tue Jun 24 03:55:47 2003:

<tsk-tsk>


#7 of 237 by naftee on Wed Jun 25 03:21:45 2003:

haha


#8 of 237 by keesan on Mon Jun 30 23:46:42 2003:

Sunday evening around 8-8:30 I sent two separate emails with one attachment
each and neither attachment got through.  This was two translations that they
wanted back Monday during the daytime.  This has happened before a few times.
The attachments were 8-16K.  I just sent them again and I hope I have not lost
a client.


#9 of 237 by gelinas on Tue Jul 1 03:19:25 2003:

I've been getting a "we do not relay" error for mail sent from grex to
someone at yahoo.com:

  dmoffa6 at yahoo.com: loses; [USER] 550 <dmoffa6@yahoo.com>... Relaying
  Denied

Irritating.


#10 of 237 by mdw on Tue Jul 1 03:33:37 2003:

Sounds like something broken with somebody else's mailer.


#11 of 237 by gelinas on Tue Jul 1 04:18:18 2003:

At MH's "What now?" prompt?  (I've not investigated to see how verbose the
default "s" (for "send") is here on grex.)


#12 of 237 by cross on Tue Jul 1 05:43:58 2003:

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#13 of 237 by gelinas on Tue Jul 1 19:41:35 2003:

Could be it's the only address that I've had occasion to send to from grex.


#14 of 237 by gelinas on Tue Jul 1 19:45:49 2003:

Yeah, I think Dan's on the right track:

What now? s
  gelinas at umich.edu: loses; [USER] 550 <gelinas@umich.edu>... Relaying
  Denied
post: 1 addressee undeliverable
send: message not delivered to anyone


#15 of 237 by cross on Tue Jul 1 19:55:22 2003:

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#16 of 237 by mdw on Tue Jul 1 21:02:35 2003:

Could be mh is misconfigured too.  There are lots of ways it could be
trying to send mail, and some of them probably will lose.


#17 of 237 by cross on Wed Jul 2 01:46:47 2003:

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#18 of 237 by gelinas on Wed Jul 2 02:37:38 2003:

No, but I hadn't used MH for outgoing mail before.  I don't usually send _any_
mail from grex.  So until now, Pine has been sufficient for the little bit
of test-mail I've sent.


#19 of 237 by cross on Wed Jul 2 17:21:58 2003:

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#20 of 237 by russ on Thu Jul 10 04:05:31 2003:

There's a new RISKS digest out, but I cannot get to ftp.sri.com to
get it here.


#21 of 237 by gull on Thu Jul 10 13:19:29 2003:

I got it in email, but I already deleted it.  Sorry.


#22 of 237 by ea on Fri Jul 11 02:36:29 2003:

I'm having a bit of a backtalk issue.  When using the "view responses" 
textbox, and pressing enter (while in the textbox), rather than showing 
me those responses, it takes me to the "Set Private Item Title" screen


#23 of 237 by janc on Fri Jul 11 02:47:22 2003:

Which browser?  Browser behavior varies on this one.


#24 of 237 by sno on Fri Jul 11 03:02:26 2003:

I noticed an extreme slogginess in grex response this morning.  When
I checked top, it showed some pretty hungry sendmail processes.  The
load was over 2 which probably isn't horrid, but if those sendmail
documents were of any volume, the pipeline was probably stressed.

If grex is supposed to handle large volumes of mail, then ignore
this report.



#25 of 237 by ea on Fri Jul 11 03:52:27 2003:

re #23 - Opera


#26 of 237 by janc on Fri Jul 11 13:40:33 2003:

OK, I thought it might be Opera.  Valerie had the same problem with Opera,
but I haven't seen it with any other browser.  We tracked it down a bit
further and, though I don't remember the details, what Opera was doing was
simply weird.  I think Valerie submitted it to them as a bug report.


#27 of 237 by other on Sun Jul 13 05:02:56 2003:

The chantab file /var/spool/party/chantab is corrupted.  There are several
places where there are partial lines followed by a series of blank lines and
then additional partial lines, which do not match up to the previous partial
lines.  (It's not a case of several carriage returns appearing in the middle
of a line.)

Can a clean copy be pulled from a backup, or should a partyadm just go through
and clean up as best we can?


#28 of 237 by kip on Sun Jul 13 17:11:26 2003:

Received a few telegrams this afternoon from people asking that an item be
posted about /c being full or nearly full.


#29 of 237 by keesan on Mon Jul 14 16:35:13 2003:

Why was grex not answering the phone for the past 24 hours or so?


#30 of 237 by janc on Mon Jul 14 16:44:29 2003:

It was down.  I rebooted it.  I think the UPS isn't doing the right
thing, but I don't know.


#31 of 237 by keesan on Mon Jul 14 17:30:34 2003:

Can you put that in the motd please?


#32 of 237 by russ on Tue Jul 15 02:39:33 2003:

Re #30:  The modems are only down when the power is down, so that
would tend to implicate the UPS.


#33 of 237 by jmsaul on Tue Jul 15 04:04:25 2003:

Why did I get 86 brandnew items when I just entered Agora?


#34 of 237 by remmers on Tue Jul 15 12:55:53 2003:

Sounds like your participation file got trashed as a side effect
of /c (where your home directory is) filling up.


#35 of 237 by janc on Tue Jul 15 13:40:48 2003:

With Scott and Valerie mostly out of the disk police business, staff isn't
as much on top of disk space as we have been in the past.  I did a quick
pass through things deleting some huge disk hogs.  That should at least
temporarily keep things going.


#36 of 237 by keesan on Wed Jul 16 04:14:19 2003:

Someone to whom I sent a binary file as an attachment reports that it arrived
(in 7-bit format) as part of the message body.  This was a translation and
it has wasted quite a bit  of time to figure out what went wrong and resend.
What might be happening?  At other times the attachments have not arrived at
all.


#37 of 237 by rcurl on Wed Jul 16 05:59:35 2003:

Did you set the file transfer to binary?


#38 of 237 by keesan on Wed Jul 16 13:07:07 2003:

Yes, I always send kermit -ir.  It was coded base 64 and remained part of the
message body.  Maybe his mail program goofed? 


#39 of 237 by russ on Wed Jul 16 23:12:14 2003:

The modem on -3596 appears to be hosed.  It connects, but it 
will not transfer any data (it went down abruptly this
morning and is still not working).


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