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Grex Helpers Item 115: Grex System Problems Item [linked]
Entered by i on Sun Dec 22 19:44:04 UTC 2002:

This item is for system problems.  If something on Grex isn't working 
right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), 
this is the place to announce it.  Except for security holes.  If you 
find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".

251 responses total.



#1 of 251 by ric on Thu Dec 26 02:56:36 2002:

Grex's version of "w" is retarded.  I can't even order the output by idle
time.


#2 of 251 by ric on Thu Dec 26 02:56:54 2002:

(I realize that's not a system problem for most of you)


#3 of 251 by polytarp on Thu Dec 26 04:37:56 2002:

You're fat.


#4 of 251 by russ on Thu Dec 26 22:56:48 2002:

Re #1:  You don't know how to use "sort"?


#5 of 251 by tonster on Sun Dec 29 03:24:48 2002:

I don't know if this is expected behavior or not, but as I hadn't logged
on grex regularly in some time, I figured I'd report it.  I probably
haven't logged on interactively (ssh/telnet) in over a year, but when I
just attempted to do so, ssh rejected my password.  I finally tried
telnet and found that my password had expired so it required me to
change it.  Now, if grex at some point drops telnet (as I'm sure is
eventually bound to happen, though probably not remotely soon), this
could be a problem.  I guess that apache doesn't prompt you and actually
lets you login with an expired password, and telnet tells you it's been
expired, but ssh is oblivious.  Anyway, I'm just reporting that issue.


#6 of 251 by gelinas on Sun Dec 29 03:27:24 2002:

It's known; I think it's a limit in ssh, itself.


#7 of 251 by gull on Tue Dec 31 14:06:45 2002:

The load average was up to 168 a few minutes ago, but it seems to be
dropping now.
  9:01am  up 26 days, 14:09,  27 users,  load average: 158.47, 159.66,
155.52

Also, this may be related, but Backtalk was just prompting me endlessly for
a password.


#8 of 251 by davel on Tue Dec 31 14:38:42 2002:

Currently:
  9:37am  up 26 days, 14:45,  28 users,  load average: 18.75, 33.39, 66.41
but Grex is still extremely slow.


#9 of 251 by tsty on Tue Dec 31 18:10:44 2002:

settled down now ...
  
 1:08pm  up 26 days, 18:16,  44 users,  load average: 5.09, 4.11, 3.69
  
on the m-b0x late last night there was cgi mailbomb process
running that ran load into the high 100s also. 


#10 of 251 by tonster on Tue Dec 31 18:45:29 2002:

apache often will not authenticate properly when the load is too high. 
I'm not sure if the password files lock or what, but it happens.


#11 of 251 by albaugh on Tue Dec 31 22:56:49 2002:

grex has been very, VERY s-l--o---w this afternoon........


#12 of 251 by polytarp on Tue Dec 31 22:59:03 2002:

No shit.


#13 of 251 by tod on Wed Jan 1 00:49:17 2003:

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#14 of 251 by polytarp on Wed Jan 1 00:50:55 2003:

Geez.


#15 of 251 by scott on Wed Jan 1 00:58:23 2003:

Uh, right.  When did you become a Grex staffer, Todd?


#16 of 251 by polytarp on Wed Jan 1 01:41:15 2003:

krj is a hacker!


#17 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 04:18:02 2003:

Why is grex denying logins?


#18 of 251 by gelinas on Wed Jan 1 06:22:17 2003:

hmm.... You logged in to enter your response, no?  So maybe the problem was
fixed?


#19 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 06:27:52 2003:

BACKTALK!


#20 of 251 by gelinas on Wed Jan 1 06:37:07 2003:

I'm surprised that it makes a difference.


#21 of 251 by carson on Wed Jan 1 06:56:43 2003:

(I was surprised that it made a difference as well, but it did.)

(on the bright side, whatever "vandal maintenance" took place appears to
have worked.  Grex is humming along right now.)


#22 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 08:13:30 2003:

What was the vandal Maintance STeve?


#23 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 15:13:40 2003:

Its 10:10am on Jan. 1st, and when i connect to grex and login, it 
disconnects me.  What kind of System Maintance is now happening?


#24 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 15:17:50 2003:

10:15am  up 14 mins,  2 users,  load average: 1.80, 1.85, 1.55

0 waiting, 2 remote + 1 local users; 72 max remote users


#25 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 15:19:59 2003:

Login      Name               TTY  Idle  Login Time   Location   Work 
Phone
noot     Scott Helmke's Root   p1        Jan  1 10:14
root     Operator              p0        Jan  1 10:13


#26 of 251 by tonster on Wed Jan 1 15:23:56 2003:

resp:20: If the webserver is up, you should be able to login and use
backtalk.  If logins are disabled, you just can't login, likely because
someone is working to clear up whatever was causing the problems that
made them reboot grex.  They'd want to make sure those scripts are gone,
logins are disabled, and possibly networks are blocked so they can
prevent the person from coming right back and starting again.


#27 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 15:27:03 2003:

Valerie Comeing to Save GREX!!!!!!


Login      Name               TTY  Idle  Login Time   Location   Work 
Phone
noot     Scott Helmke's Root   p1        Jan  1 10:14
valerie  Valerie Mates        *s0        Jan  1 10:21      Happy 
Everything!


#28 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 15:28:24 2003:

The Webserver is Obviously up, Or how would i be entering items, or how 
would people read them.


#29 of 251 by scott on Wed Jan 1 15:54:03 2003:

Really nasty vandal - but I think we've managed to deal with it.


#30 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 15:56:12 2003:

grex is up at 10:54
appeared to be another attack early this morning!!!!!


#31 of 251 by jlamb on Wed Jan 1 16:05:49 2003:

While grex is preventing Vandals, Mnet is letting them on their 
systems, after the mailbombing cgi script
Login: kap                              Name: kap de kuk
Directory: /home/guest/kap              Shell: /bin/bash
On since Wed Jan  1 10:48 (EST) on ttypk, idle 0:08, from 203.111.194.11
No Mail.
Plan: Alternate Email: neuro@pula.com
bash-
2.05a$                                                                  
  


#32 of 251 by davel on Wed Jan 1 18:28:50 2003:

Thanks, Scott.


#33 of 251 by naftee on Wed Jan 1 22:22:19 2003:

I'm not sure if the user kap is still allowed to log on.  Finger information
shows up even if the user is splatted.


#34 of 251 by jlamb on Thu Jan 2 00:28:52 2003:

resp:33   READ CLOSER
On since Wed Jan  1 10:48 (EST) on ttypk, idle 0:08, from 203.111.194.11


#35 of 251 by keesan on Thu Jan 2 16:11:46 2003:

In the past day or so I have received five (5) copies of happy.scr from
azhar.rajput@sympatico.ca.  If other people have been receiving these, can
the filter be set to reject mail from this idiot?  Is happy.scr the
screensaver it claims to be or some virus on another machine?  The mails are
47K and I have to empty my mailbox regularly to keep it functional.


#36 of 251 by keesan on Thu Jan 2 18:03:08 2003:

Can someone explain again, in detail, how to use procmail.  I just got a sixth
copy of the above spam, all 49K with header and message.


#37 of 251 by keesan on Thu Jan 2 18:12:51 2003:

Would it work to create a file in my home directory called .procmailrc
and put into it the lines  :0      * ^From:azhar.rajput*      /dev/null
(These are three separate lines but I cannot type a line starting with a colon
into bbs.)


#38 of 251 by naftee on Thu Jan 2 18:33:37 2003:

RE:37 
You might have to put something in your .forward to make it work.  You can
also put a space before the gate prompt if you are entering special
characters, like:
 !
 :


#39 of 251 by keesan on Thu Jan 2 19:06:44 2003:

So what is .forward supposed to look like?
I think procmail should be included in something like the CHANGE program so
that all we beginners can use it more easily.  Any volunteers to do this?
I put those lines in a file .procmailrc (also * before the from address
since it comes as azhar rajput <azhar.rajput.....> and at least it is not
blocking normal mail (I sent myself a test mail).  The man page for procmail
also said to put -m somewhere, but I could not understand most of it.


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