This item is for system announcements (new computer equipment on Grex, 
system upgrades, Grex meetings, etc.).  Personal announcements should go 
back in item 2; Grex system *problems* belong in the next item (#4). 

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I dont kow that v ?
can you explain to me ?

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hello everyone  I am a new comer

welcome, then.

Hi, are you in China?  Nyi hau ma?

keesan; you don't have to flaunt your abiliry with language.

No, but I do.  Keesan, which romanization is that?  In Pinyin, it's "Ni
hao ma?"

Thanks, I don't write pinyin, just got taught the pronunciation.

yeh, he's back at grex-dot-org ... and darned WELCOME, too.

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i 'm in china,who  is from here ?

Hi everybody from Spain!!!!

Hola!  !Haces nin~os con su perro!

I am from China too

Re #15:  Nice that you're polite about it.

Re #16:  Cool!  We're trying to translate this Chinese name one of the users
         on here was given: Tao Xiao Sa.  Can you help us?

        Modems are back to hanging up on me when I want to connect 
and not hanging up on me when I want to say 'bye'.

resp:15 y eres un chingado cabron, gavacho puto.

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Why Grex? I would think cyberspace.org would be a very tempting target.
It sounds like some place important. 

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(huh.  I wonder which ones.)

The page in question does (did!) exist, and was about how to download &
install IRC stuff.  It's possible that somebody set it up and then put the
link somewhere very popular (not slashdot, I would have noticed).

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Backtalk is back!

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Quite a run of bad luck.  It's strange how it comes in waves.

Thanks for getting it back up and running smoothly!

see? tha's what happens when you get t turned-on donkey turned off.
  
hurrumpg! 
  
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thankx to the staff, for sure.

test

I'm currently working on upgrading Grex's httpd to version 2.0.40.  This
is a bigger change than we've made for a while. Like almost all new
software, making this newest Apache work on Grex's old computer is a
challenge.

While I'm testing, there may be brief interuptions to web service, as I
swap in the new server, test something on it, and swap it out again. 
Usually these will last less than a minute, and retrying your query will
work.

Unfortunately our development machine broke, so I don't have any good
alternatives to doing this on Grex.

I abandoned the 2.0.40 effort.  Write up another piece of softare that can't
easily be installed on SunOS.  I installed 1.3.26 instead.  This should be
fine.  If you notice any changes in the behavior of Grex's web interface, let
me know.  There shouldn't be any.

I was wondering if 2.0.40 is usable.  "40" is a pretty big number...

There was an article recently about how very few sites have gone to the
Apache 2.x branch, both because of a lack of module support and because
there just aren't that many advantages to it.  The main selling point, IIRC,
is thread support.

2.x is usable but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble yet.  I plan to stick
with 1.3.x where I work as long as it's being maintained.

I'm sure 2.0.40 is usable - on Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, or
Windows.  The Apache Group is pushing it as the version everyone ought
to be using.  However, they are somewhat deluded.  They haven't written
any documentation for it, hardly.  The installation documentation
mentions only the most popular configure options.  I had to read the
CHANGELOG to find any hint about how to link in a module not written by
Apache.  There document for "how to write your own modules" has not been
updated for 2.0.x.  They still distribute the 1.3.x version with 2.0.x,
and there are substantial differences.  To port mod_auth_external to it,
we basically had to read source code.  So is it surprising that not many
modules have been ported.  Why they think they can call a version that
they haven't bothered to document yet "the one folks should be using" is
a mystery to me.

OK, I've installed Backtalk version 1.2.2, the latest and greatest.

I haven't actually gone around testing much yet, but what's new includes:

  - The abalone interface flavor has been heavily upgraded.  Lots more
    commands, including fairwitness commands.  Many bug fixes.  The goal
    is to make it as complete an interface as pistachio, and we're 
    close.  It's missing the preview/spell check function, and not
    much else.

    Abalone now makes fairly heavy use of Javascript.  If you've got it
    turned off (not entirely a stupid thing to do), it should still
    function OK, though not quite as nicely.

  - The papaya interface has been added.  This semi-clones M-Net's old
    Web-Yapp interface.  It was done for the M-Net users who miss Web
    Yapp after M-Net changed to Backtalk (apparantly there is exactly
    one such person - there's always one).  Might as well put it here
    to, to make old M-Netters feel welcome.  It actually has a couple
    good features in it's own right.  It's isn't quite as full featured
    as some of the other interfaces.

  - Lots of internal improvements.  Whole subsystems have been
    rewritten for better preformance and more flexibility.

Oh, another almost noticable change - reloading after posting an item or
response should no longer attempt to post another copy.

Opps, big bug.  The code to list hotlist conferences, which is shared by
pistachio, abalone, and papaya doesn't work.  I've temporarily disabled
that function in pistachio, so it's at least usable.  Abalone and papaya
will be completely broken until I figure this one out.

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