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Grex Helpers Item 110: System Problems Item [linked]
Entered by i on Sat Jun 22 11:04:31 UTC 2002:

This item is for system problems.  If something on Grex isn't working 
right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), 
this is the place to announce it.  Except for security holes.  If you 
find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".

293 responses total.



#1 of 293 by jared on Tue Jun 25 15:46:26 2002:

i've received a lot of spam today that appears to have come
from the "pal" account.


#2 of 293 by jep on Tue Jun 25 16:11:15 2002:

Backtalk is down.


#3 of 293 by mooncat on Tue Jun 25 16:32:42 2002:

Backtalk appears to be back up, for the moment, that's how I'm getting 
here.


#4 of 293 by carson on Tue Jun 25 22:32:56 2002:

re #1:  (I received a lot of spam today, period.  it was certainly odd
        to see so much directed at my Grex account; usually, at least
        of late, it's been one or two at a time.)


#5 of 293 by mdw on Tue Jun 25 23:25:52 2002:

The total amount of spam directed at grex seems to have gone *way* up
this week.  In a typical week (say, June 16-23), grex might reject
something like 765 pieces of suspected spam.  Since June 23, (ie, 2
days), grex has rejected 6578 pieces of suspected spam.  As best I can
tell, nearly all of the bounced mail really was spam.  It looked like a
rather large # of open relay hosts had been used, and delivery had been
attempted to more than 2000 grex mail addresses.  A number of different
kinds of spammers may be involved.  I don't have enough data to say
whether this was directed against grex, or is just a smaller part of
some larger spam deluge.


#6 of 293 by carson on Wed Jun 26 01:51:21 2002:

(ah.  thanks for the info, Marcus.)


#7 of 293 by cmcgee on Wed Jun 26 02:10:17 2002:

Yes, I've been getting spam this week in accounts that seldom have any at
all (here on Grex).


#8 of 293 by oval on Wed Jun 26 05:11:32 2002:

i've been bombarded the past few days as well at my panix account. :(



#9 of 293 by gull on Wed Jun 26 13:12:44 2002:

Oddly, I've seen a big drop-off in spam at work for no reason I can figure
out.


#10 of 293 by jhudson on Wed Jun 26 17:14:24 2002:

I got none. lol


#11 of 293 by danr on Wed Jun 26 17:32:50 2002:

resp:9. Spam seems to come and go, like the tides. Today, as you note, 
has been relatively spamless.


#12 of 293 by russ on Wed Jun 26 22:06:43 2002:

I had an inordinate amount of spam also, which I forwarded to uce.

I would propose that the federal death penalty be extended to spamming.
We'd be sure to clean out some of the sleazier elements of society. ;-)


#13 of 293 by eskarina on Wed Jun 26 23:23:28 2002:

I've never gotten any spam on grex.  But I got 20 more than usual on my MSU
account today.


#14 of 293 by other on Thu Jun 27 05:12:07 2002:

I receive almost nothing BUT spam on my grex account, so I've changed my 
.forward to uce and am using my upstageleft.net addresses instead.


#15 of 293 by eskarina on Thu Jun 27 20:39:11 2002:

did you give out your email address on grex?


#16 of 293 by carson on Thu Jun 27 21:53:37 2002:

(it's been a long time since I've given out my Grex address for anything,
but I figure spam will be one of the disadvantages of being at the top of
the password file.)  ;)


#17 of 293 by oval on Fri Jun 28 00:29:30 2002:

from hubbie:

"i just got some spam relayed through the Defense Intelligence Agency in
Wash DC ..

http://samspade.org/t/whois?a=11.64.149.229&server=magic

good job we (sic) are not fighting a war against spam ;)
"



#18 of 293 by other on Fri Jun 28 05:19:14 2002:

It's been a long while since I've given out my Grex address for anything, 
but it is still on my inactive (yet still present) angelfire.com account, 
and it appears on a lot of publicly accessible (and spiderable) Grex 
webpages due to my boardmembership.


#19 of 293 by oval on Fri Jun 28 08:07:08 2002:

just passing this along from the panix mod:

":Notice to users running Unix at home (elr) Thu Jun 27 21:09:40 2002

   Panix customers who run home versions of Unix should pay close attention
   to these recent security advisories:
   
     OpenSSH remote root compromise:
        http://www.openssh.org/txt/iss.adv
   
     BSD-based operating system resolver client buffer overflow:
        http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/803539 
   
     Apache chunking remote vulnerability:
           http://httpd.apache.org/info/security_bulletin_20020620.txt
   
   The resolver client buffer overflow is particularly scary, since it
   could theoretically be exploited through a firewall or on a machine
   that is not running any server programs.
"



#20 of 293 by janc on Fri Jun 28 12:49:45 2002:

I dunno.  If I wanted to send mail to Eric, I'd probably send it to 
other@grex.org even though he has never told me to use that addresss.


#21 of 293 by other on Sat Jun 29 05:43:31 2002:

Well, please send it to upstageleft.net instead.  Any address there will 
do.


#22 of 293 by jlamb on Mon Jul 1 13:56:40 2002:

to help prevent spam do not use your grex account to sign up for things on
the internet.  get a yahoo or hotmail account to sign up for these things.
these accounts are always targets of spam anyways!!!.


#23 of 293 by davel on Mon Jul 1 14:37:03 2002:

Hmm.  So to reduce the spam I get I should open another account where I'll
get even more spam?  


#24 of 293 by rcurl on Mon Jul 1 15:37:09 2002:

You might get *different* spam.....  8^}


#25 of 293 by mynxcat on Mon Jul 1 15:38:36 2002:

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#26 of 293 by keesan on Mon Jul 1 17:52:40 2002:

I never ever get spam at my yahoo account or at my ISP, but plenty at grex.
I posted my grex address at my website and get lots of 'small business' spam
as well as the usual porno and mortgage.


#27 of 293 by catfish on Mon Jul 1 17:57:37 2002:

If you post your address at a website, you will always get spammed.


#28 of 293 by mynxcat on Mon Jul 1 18:01:08 2002:

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#29 of 293 by gull on Mon Jul 1 23:45:51 2002:

I got spam at my Ameritech account the day it was opened.


#30 of 293 by keesan on Tue Jul 2 01:48:13 2002:

I got it at my earthlink account as soon as I changed email addresses to avoid
spam.  Not a single spam at my lesser-known ISP in six months.


#31 of 293 by lynne on Tue Jul 2 14:07:09 2002:

I've been getting some interesting spam since someone did a search of
aac@* and figured out that aac@mit.edu was a valid address  (mailing list).
Fortunately, it was ridiculously easy to solve the problem, since mit
allows you to take yourself off any list.  I'm wondering if the others on
the list have figured it out yet.


#32 of 293 by jhudson on Wed Jul 3 16:59:41 2002:

lol. I posted uce@ftc.gov some time ago.
I suspect that spam bots have actually sent spam there!


#33 of 293 by jazz on Wed Jul 3 22:17:21 2002:

        One thing I love about GREX: 

        The staff's efforts to prevent spam mail aren't met with suspicion and
paranoia.


#34 of 293 by russ on Thu Jul 4 04:53:20 2002:

We *still* have a modem with defective flow control which dumps
the connection when you try using sz.  <sigh>

If Jan is measuring modem usage without taking the defective
modems (noisy, disconnecting) into account, the actual demand
is being understated by at least one full line, maybe two.


#35 of 293 by krj on Thu Jul 4 07:14:04 2002:

The network connection is down.


#36 of 293 by davel on Thu Jul 4 13:22:03 2002:

It's up now, or was a few minutes ago.


#37 of 293 by keesan on Thu Jul 4 15:04:01 2002:

Russ, dial 761-5041 instea dof 761-3000.  I never have download problems with
the former and usually do with the latter (with Kermit).  Most people don't
seem to be downloading so they tolerate the bad modem.


#38 of 293 by gull on Thu Jul 4 16:53:38 2002:

I keep getting Grex's bible quote rejection messages when trying to send
someone mail from here.  This surprises me, since I thought the spam filters
only operated on incoming mail.  Any ideas what I should change in my
message to get it to slide through?


#39 of 293 by mdw on Fri Jul 5 05:25:30 2002:

Send mail to postmaster.  Include a copy of the bounce message.  There
are lots of things that can cause bible quotes, and yes, most of them
apply to mail of any origin, internal or external.


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