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Grex Helpers Item 100: Grex System Problems Item [linked]
Entered by i on Fri Jun 22 04:06:13 UTC 2001:

This item is for system problems.  If something on Grex isn't working 
right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), 
this is the place to announce it.  Except for security holes.  If you 
find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".

91 responses total.



#1 of 91 by korn on Sat Jun 23 01:30:12 2001:

list


#2 of 91 by krj on Mon Jun 25 20:03:50 2001:

/tmp is full


#3 of 91 by cmcgee on Tue Jun 26 21:43:50 2001:

I couldn't dial in on any of the five phone numbers I tried this
afternoon.


#4 of 91 by opinions on Wed Jun 27 13:34:58 2001:

Not so much a problem, as an observation of "newuser".  Compare this:

The only answer that I need to create your account is your name; ...
Just a reminder, please try to use both upper- and lower-case for text
input; it's much more readable!

Enter your FULL name? Denise M. Anderson
Sorry -- no periods allowed in name.
Try again.

with this:

Now, you need to pick a "login-id". ... This is the name you will be known
by, NOT your password (that comes later)!  A few examples:

        denise  Denise M. Anderson
        bubbles Tom Digby

It's sort of a tease to show a user with a middle initial <period> when 
you're not allowed to enter such a full name...


#5 of 91 by slynne on Wed Jun 27 14:18:44 2001:

I have a period in my full name. 


#6 of 91 by brighn on Wed Jun 27 14:30:06 2001:

that's because you're special


#7 of 91 by slynne on Wed Jun 27 16:32:11 2001:

Yeah and pretentious too. I mean I *could* use my first name but instead 
choose to be special and different and use my middle name which has an 
added E just to be really pretentious. la la la la la la. 


#8 of 91 by brighn on Wed Jun 27 18:18:50 2001:

Yeah, well, what CAN you do?


#9 of 91 by keesan on Sun Jul 1 15:56:03 2001:

My brother was given the middle name M.  (Em period)


#10 of 91 by davel on Mon Jul 2 13:36:46 2001:

Well, I had an uncle J T (and I'm not sure about periods).


#11 of 91 by jhudson on Tue Jul 3 00:33:34 2001:

Could always change once inside, anyway.


#12 of 91 by albaugh on Mon Jul 9 19:33:00 2001:

Recently I've noticed this phenomenon:  On certain e-mail messages appearing
in my grex inbox which are mime-encoded to have "flat" text in the first
section and html-encoded in the second section (pretty much the first stuff
regurgitated), such messages are not forwarded or received at my forwarding
inbox.  If I save the message to a file, and e-mail it explicitly, the same
thing occurs (e-mail not sent/received).  If I strip off the second html-
encoded section, then the e-mail is sent/received OK.  Since I'm not given
any bounce message to my grex inbox, I suspect the problem may be at the
receiving system.  But I'm not sure, so I'll ask:  Would grex have any problem
forwarding/sending an e-mail with html encoding?  If not, why would a
receiving system refuse delivery of or discard such a message?


#13 of 91 by mdw on Tue Jul 10 22:00:34 2001:

Grex won't care if you get multi-part mime encoded mail.  It's possible
your receiving system has been configured to silently discard them;
certainly there's a lot of spam that comes in that format.  We're not
likely to ever do so here on grex, because there's also lots of
legitimate mail that comes in this format (and it seems that recent
versions of mailers for AOL.COM and others won't let you reliably turn
this "feature" off.)  Possibly Ford feels differently.


#14 of 91 by katie on Thu Jul 12 02:12:52 2001:

 When I logged in just now, it said "6 failures since last login." This
wasn't me...is someone trying to log in as me?



#15 of 91 by krj on Thu Jul 12 05:59:51 2001:

The network connection crashed at about 01:45.


#16 of 91 by eeyore on Thu Jul 12 06:34:55 2001:

I tend to do that to your sister from time to time....but once I realize what
I've done, I'll email her to let her know. :)
(why in hell I try to log in as Meg I have no idea....you'd think that I'd
have had this whole thing down by now....)


#17 of 91 by mooncat on Thu Jul 12 12:23:32 2001:

Well yes, one would think that Meg... ;)


#18 of 91 by ball on Thu Jul 12 23:17:22 2001:

Re 16: You crash Ken's sister?!! ;-)


#19 of 91 by drew on Sat Jul 14 21:13:16 2001:

The net connection is hosed.


#20 of 91 by other on Sat Jul 14 23:58:01 2001:

does that explain this? 

Waiting for a free port (? for help)
...8
...7
...5
...4
...3
Jul 14 19:48 Jul 14 19:48 27357 -1 27294 166.90.237.254 LOST HEAD
...2
...1
Jul 14 19:49 Jul 14 19:49 27359 -1 27330 32.101.160.207 LOST HEAD

Grex central timekeeping.  At the beep, the time is
 7:54PM on Saturday, 14 July 2001


"Lost head???"


#21 of 91 by drew on Sun Jul 15 00:00:12 2001:

It might. But I just get a silent connection. Makes contact but just sits
there.


#22 of 91 by mdw on Sun Jul 15 05:33:25 2001:

"Lost head" means the process at the head of the waitlist queue somehow
"disappeared".


#23 of 91 by keesan on Mon Jul 16 14:13:40 2001:

I have been unable to dial in since last night.  Rings 6 or 7 times and
then hangs up.  Or does not ring at all or give any message and hangs up.


#24 of 91 by janc on Mon Jul 16 14:37:58 2001:

Hmmm...last night this was because Grex was shut down and I had the modems
turned off.  But I did turn them back on, so theoretically they should be
working.  Did I screw something up?


#25 of 91 by keesan on Mon Jul 16 21:05:08 2001:

This time I dialed and it rang and eventually hung up, but when I dialed again
it rang four times and then connected.  Maybe one modem is still turned off?


#26 of 91 by eeyore on Mon Jul 16 22:12:42 2001:

I've been getting that alot....where it dials, and then partial connects, then
hangs up, but I get through on the second try fine.


#27 of 91 by scott on Mon Jul 16 23:22:16 2001:

There's a couple new bad lines.  Must remember to call... must remember to
call.


#28 of 91 by janc on Tue Jul 17 01:44:06 2001:

I did some rewiring last time I was in the pumpkin so that I can turn off all
modems with one switch, so they are either all off or all on.  I think I'm
the only staff member who turns the modems off while working on things.  It's
bad enough spending six hours in that little room without having modems
beeping and blatting at you as people fail to connect.  The dark side is that
sometimes I forget to power them all back on when I leave, but I've been good
lately.


#29 of 91 by scott on Tue Jul 17 12:03:01 2001:

I really should make it easier to set the modem motd, since it's much more
informative than open ringing.


#30 of 91 by scott on Thu Jul 19 19:48:26 2001:

The dead modem lines have been fixed.


#31 of 91 by eeyore on Thu Jul 19 20:03:05 2001:

But we can't dialin now.
(sorry, put it in the wrong item last time)


#32 of 91 by aruba on Thu Jul 19 21:12:06 2001:

I haven't been able to dial in or telnet in all day.  (When I dial in, 
the terminal server answers, but apparently can't connect to Grex, 
because it hangs up after a few seconds.)

Also, the MySQL daemon is apparently down.


#33 of 91 by janc on Thu Jul 19 23:36:29 2001:

I think our install of mysql is definately broken.  Maybe I'll try to
see if PostgreSQL works any better on this system.


#34 of 91 by keesan on Fri Jul 20 10:22:23 2001:

Grex stopped hanging up on us some time early Thursday evening and this
morning connected and stayed connected on the first try.  
Thanks for whoever fixed the problem.


#35 of 91 by aruba on Fri Jul 20 14:34:46 2001:

It did work last night, but right now I can't dial in or telnet in.  
Same problem as described in #32.  I think this is what it looks like 
when the telnet deamon dies?


#36 of 91 by keesan on Fri Jul 20 17:11:03 2001:

It worked first try for me just now.  


#37 of 91 by scott on Fri Jul 20 17:39:39 2001:

inetd had died a couple times in the last day, causing the telnet/modem
problems.


#38 of 91 by dpc on Fri Jul 20 18:06:13 2001:

I am afraid there is still a problem, as of about 10:30 this morning.
I dialed in, got the "It may take a few seconds to connect" message,
then Grex hung up.  I dialed again; same story.  Now I am (obviously)
on the system, but I have no idea what will happen if I log off
and then try to log on again.
        This same situation happened yesterday, 7/19.  When I couldn't
dial in, I logged onto M-Net and tried to telnet to Grex.  Connection
refused by Grex.
        I really hope this new problem can be fixed!  Thanx for
everyone's efforts.


#39 of 91 by dpc on Fri Jul 20 19:10:38 2001:

Oop!  One more problem.  While I was on a few minutes ago,
I tried to lynx out - to yahoo, hardly a problem site.  Grex
said it was looking up www.yahoo.com, and then nothing.
It hung.  


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