In Agora 66 on dowsing, the discussion has drifted from detection of
electromagnetic fields by humans to effect of electromagnetic fields on
humans, such as the very low frequency fields caused by power lines possibly
causing cancer or immune deficiencies, and the use of electromagnetism in
medicine.  I ran across an interesting partial bibliography of the subject,
which I posted in Agora and can repeat here if you want.  Does anyone in grex
know much about effects of EMF (electromagnetic fields) or ELF (extremely low
frequency or 50-60 Hz fields) on humans.  Or about acupuncture using weak
electric charges on the needles, or even acupuncture in general?  Have you
actually experienced or even performed it.  Is it effective, safe?  What sort
s of things other than anesthesia is it now used for.  I have not searched
the web on this subject and would appreciate if other people would do so and
report on different aspects.

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For a brief summary of the history and general uses of acupuncture, see
/a/k/e/keesan/acupuncture.  I am also interested in how other traditional
Chinese.  I was given some type of salve that prevented a beesting reaction,
and was told it contained eucalyptus.  Was that the active ingredient?
Apparently the bad effects of ELFs on health have not been proven.  See a file
referred to in the Agora item.

Insect sting stuff usually contains ammonia and/or a protelytic enzyme.
I think you mean that bad effects of ELFs on health have not been proven.
Have to watch syntax here...that "the" makes it sound initially as though
it is being stated that "the bad effects" exist.

I was referring to the fact that it was a very hot topic just a few years ago,
everyone was afraid of power lines and electric blankets.  'the' referred to
the fact that I had already discussed the matter in Agora.  Something does
not have to be proven to exist in order to be discussed.  I suggest that you
read the article referred to, it is very well done.  Do you know anything
about traditional Chinese medicine?  It seems to be based on the idea of
preventing disease rather than throwing chemicals at it after it develops.
I tried baking soda on the bee sting.  It may neutralize the chemical, but
I still developed a not-very-delayed allergic reaction in the leg which did
not receive the Chinese salve.  I wonder if the salve had something in it
similar to Benadryl, which I now use on beestings.  (The allergic reaction
involved histamine, which causes swelling and redness, and lasted all summer,
and I was even getting the same reaction from cold, as near frozen-food
sections in supermarkets or swimming - swelling, redness and anaphylactic
shock).  Well, in this case I guess it was a chemical treatment.

Scott, I am thinking of killing this item, as the subject is still under
discussion in Agora 66 (dowsing, which is turning into a general discussion
of EMF and its interactions with humans - detection and health effects).
Do you think there is any reason to link Agora 66 here?  It is already linked
to Paranormal.  If you don't kill this item, I probably will.

Why kill it?  I would just let it sit, since disk space is not really an
issue.

Ok, and you decide whether to link Agora 66, on a similar topic.

I think I'll not link Agora 66, since it really started as the "dowsing" item
and only drifted into the topic of this item.  Maybe a condensation of the
relevant part of that discussion could be pasted into this item.

Good luck trying to condense anything.  I think we have agreed to disagree
on whether there are any health effects.  The discussion still continues.

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