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Grex Glb Item 31: RED LOBSTER AND THE OLIVE GARDEN OPPOSE CIVIL RIGHTS
Entered by mta on Sat Aug 22 21:06:57 UTC 1998:

According to The Washington Blade (July 17, 1998, pg. 12, col. 1)

Darden Restaurants, the owner of Red Lobster, Olive Garden, and the new
Bahama Breeze restaurant chains, wants to be able to fire employees 
solely
because those employees are Gay.

Darden Restaurants is going to court to try and get Cook County, 
Illinois
human rights ordinance -- which prohibits discrimination based on race, 
sex,
religion, sexual orientation, and other categories, in matters of
employment, housing, public accommodations and credit transactions --
declared unconstitutional.  Their action comes in response to an order 
from
the Cook County Human Rights Commission that they reinstate a Gay 
employee
who was repeatedly ridiculed and eventually fired because of his sexual
orientation.

The restaurant is not trying to claim that it did not discriminate - it 
is
acknowledging that it *did* discriminate, and that civil rights laws 
which
prevent them from acting on their bigotry are unconstitutional!  This is 
not
just a company that supports an anti-Gay "foundation;"  This is not just 
a
company that discriminates and tries to cover it up; (although those
examples are bad enough!)  This is a company that is actively seeking to
overturn important civil rights legislation - which would open the doors 
for
countless other firings, harassment, and other forms of discrimination.

I know many of you often eat at these restaurants (I have as well), but 
Red
Lobster and The Olive Garden are not establishments you should support.

Next time you're tempted to eat at Red Lobster or The Olive Garden, 
imagine
your Lesbian
daughter/sister/granddaughter/aunt/niece/friend/mother/lover/self being
fired solely because she's a lesbian -- for no other reason.

Or imagine your Gay
son/brother/grandson/uncle/nephew/friend/father/lover/self losing his
housing - or being unable to find a place to live - solely because he's 
Gay.

There are hundreds of other restaurants out there -- ones that aren't 
using
your money to take away the civil rights of those you know and love.

Patronize them, but not Red Lobster or The Olive Garden.

BOYCOTT RED LOBSTER AND THE OLIVE GARDEN.

Please forward this on to as many persons as possible.

30 responses total.



#1 of 30 by birdlady on Sun Aug 23 06:20:04 1998:

I boycotted Cracker Barrel for this very reason.  I never go to Red Lobster
or the Olive Garden anyway...too expensive.  But now I'll avoid them like the
plague.


#2 of 30 by jazz on Sun Aug 23 13:29:18 1998:

        Wow.  I've never been a big fan of either, but that's definitely
something worth boycotting.


#3 of 30 by remmers on Sun Aug 23 17:38:27 1998:

I've avoided Cracker Barrel for the same reason too.

I haven't seen anything about the Darden Restaurants business
in the news. Does anybody know where there's info about it, other
than what Misti quoted in resp:0?


#4 of 30 by mta on Sun Aug 23 20:02:45 1998:

I still boycott Cracker Barrel, and boycotting Red Lobster is going to be a
major sacrifice, but I will.

*sigh*


#5 of 30 by brighn on Sun Aug 23 21:07:40 1998:

Ditto Olive Garden for me. Red Lobster isn't someplace I ever go.


#6 of 30 by katie on Mon Aug 24 03:53:29 1998:

Isn`t ChiChis also in that chain>


#7 of 30 by mta on Mon Aug 24 22:45:53 1998:

Oh, no!  I don't know.  

(Not that I love ChiChi's or anything but it's getting harder and harder to eat
out these day!)


#8 of 30 by brighn on Tue Aug 25 19:31:24 1998:

Business Summary
Darden Restaurants, Inc. is a full service restaurant organization. DRI
operates 1,118 restaurants under the names: ``Red Lobster'', ``The Olive
Garden'' and ``Bahama Breeze''. 
Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/p/d/dri.html


#9 of 30 by omni on Wed Aug 26 05:08:37 1998:

  This may not be the place, but since we are discussing anti-gay behavior,
Lewis Powell passed away today. He is the Supreme who admitted that he made
a mistake by allowing homosexual activity within the privacy of one's home.

 May he burn in hell for that. Privacy is privacy, and as long as it's legal
no one has a right to tell you what sex is legal or not.


#10 of 30 by mta on Wed Aug 26 15:50:06 1998:

Perhaps you mean "as long as it hurts no one"?


#11 of 30 by remmers on Wed Aug 26 22:58:38 1998:

Re #9: I think you've got it backwards about Powell. According to
the obituary published in the New York Times, he voted with the
majority (i.e. against extending Roe vs. Wade to apply to rights
of homosexuals to consensual sex), but later -- after his
retirement from the Supreme Court -- stated that he regretted
his vote and that "the dissent had the better of the arguments".


#12 of 30 by omni on Thu Aug 27 08:41:57 1998:

 Yeah, thanks John.

  re 10. Yes, I meant what you said.


#13 of 30 by lumen on Mon Sep 28 00:05:26 1998:

Hrm..I'll have to check on that-- don't know if I can get a copy of the
Washington Blade.

I always found myself overstuffed at the Olive Garden anyway.

Hmm..hafta see..not much for political action


#14 of 30 by remmers on Mon Sep 28 10:45:18 1998:

Any updates on the status of all this?


#15 of 30 by mta on Wed Sep 30 03:16:47 1998:

None that I've heard about -- and I'm looking because I really *like* Red
Lobster.


#16 of 30 by i on Wed Sep 30 03:36:26 1998:

What relation do the local Lobster & Garden have to corporate HQ and what
attitude are they adopting on this?  Are they loyal corporate cogs in the
Nazi hate machine, flunkies ignoring the big shots' stupid ideas in order
to get their own jobs done, or what?  


#17 of 30 by lumen on Wed Sep 30 03:37:45 1998:

Man's got a point.  I think writing the company might be more effective,
either by letter, or by formal petition.


#18 of 30 by mta on Wed Sep 30 12:47:54 1998:

I'm kind of busy this summer...anyone else want to look into this and report
back?

Anyone got press cedentials they could use to interview the local managers?

I'd absolutely *love* to hear that the local managers were against this hate
mongering and were to be supported...


#19 of 30 by void on Fri Oct 2 11:00:53 1998:

   is there an e-mail or snail mail address for darden restaurants?
i'd love to send them some mail every week or so.


#20 of 30 by brighn on Sun Oct 4 21:42:18 1998:

If you have comments for Olive Garden Guest Relations, please feel free to
call us at 1-800-331-2729 between the hours of 8:30AM and 5:00PM EST Monday
through Friday or write us at: 
Olive Garden Guest Relations
P.O. BOX 592037
Orlando, FL 32859-2037 

Red Lobster
5900 Lake Ellenor Dr.
Orlando, FL. 32809 


#21 of 30 by joe on Wed Oct 7 07:32:43 1998:

I have a few gay friends who work for Rock Lobster, one of which is a Vice
President in training, and they don't seem to have any problems-- and they're
both very out.  I've also been served by some pretty queeny servers at the
Carpenter Rd store.
,


#22 of 30 by brighn on Wed Oct 7 17:17:31 1998:

now that you mention that, I recall an incident at Olive Garden. Val had been
complaining that all the restaurants we'd been to recently had had waitresses,
who flirted with me and ignored her. she was happy to see that, at the olive
garden, we finally got a waiter... until he started flirting with me and
ignoring her, too.


#23 of 30 by mta on Thu Oct 8 23:01:04 1998:

Well, the circumstantial evidence suggetss that at least the local stores are
bucking the trend from headquarters...I'm very glad to hear that!

(Ultimate Feast, here I come!)  ;)


#24 of 30 by mta on Mon Oct 19 04:55:06 1998:

I finally called and talked to someone fairly high up at Red Lobster.  
This person was very surprised to hear about this rumour in circulation 
and assured me that at least in the Ann Arbor area there is no such 
policy or inclination.



#25 of 30 by remmers on Mon Oct 19 11:41:44 1998:

That's nice to know. Thanks for checking into it.


#26 of 30 by bruin on Mon Oct 19 13:47:18 1998:

Same here, mta, especially since my mother, my sister, and yours truly have
tentative plans to go to either Red Lobster or Olive Garden next Sunday.


#27 of 30 by void on Wed Oct 21 21:42:28 1998:

   thanks for checking, mta.  trying to explain to my father why i had 
suddenl;y become reluctant to go to his favorite restaurants would have 
been awkward, to say the least.  not to metion the fact that it's good 
to learn this is a rumor.  btw, do you think red lobster/olive garden's 
parent company will work to suppress this rumor now that it has been 
brought to their attention?


#28 of 30 by bookworm on Wed Oct 21 21:52:49 1998:

I probably shouldn't add my two cents to this conversation, since technically
I'm not that visible, but, I've never heard of difficulties in either of the
establishments named and I've visited both in my area.  I even heard a rumor
once of a transsexual who was found in the ladies restroom at Red Lobster
once.  That may or may not be true though.


#29 of 30 by mta on Thu Oct 22 21:49:57 1998:

I still have to print up a copy of this item (main text only -- not the
responses) to give to the person I talked to.  Then maybe headquarters will
hear about it and counter it.

Yeah, it was sticky when I was reluctant to go to RL for my Mom-in-law's
birthday -- it'd been a tradition for *years*.  It became a non-issue because
the stroke she had that day as we were on our way to pick her up for dinner
obviated dining out...but I'm glad -- very glad -- that we can celebrate there
when she's able to leave the nursing facility.


#30 of 30 by starwolf on Fri Dec 11 11:40:23 1998:

Ow.  I hope she's feeling better.  

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