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the other day, i got into a fascinating conversation about the range of emotions people in relationships feel toward each other. one of the points brought up in the discussion was that the opposite of love is not hate but indifference, since hating someone implies that one still, on some level, cares about what happens to the hated and is unwilling to totally let go of the relationship. someone else in the discussion said that these emotions are more like integers, with love being positive, hate being negative, and indifference being zero. what are your opinions?
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I like *both* theories. Perhaps it's like light, where it can be both a particle and a wave? (emotions being irrational and disobeying the laws of science and all, in this gooey contradictory way) Great discussion...I can't wait to hear other people's oppinion!.
You need to make it 2-dimensional thing - measure how much someone cares about the other person on one axis (from wouldn't-notice-if-they-died to total obsession) and nature of feeling on the other (from blind hatred to worship). Actually, emotions are more complex than that, if anyone's interested in mathematical psychology.
I think the Greeks had the right idea. 'Eros' is sexual love, 'Agape' is admiration and/or love of God, and 'Philos' is friendship/emotional bond. So, it's possible to find someone sexually repulsive, emotionally highly attractive, and neutral in terms of admiration, and there's _words_ for all that :) <the language geek sounds off>
makes my head hurt... top o that reminds me of me and the gf's last converation....
The integer theory doesn't work, in my mind. I've hated people I didn't love, and I've hated people I loved. I've noticed that I hate people because: (1) I love them and am unwilling to accept them on whatever terms (2) I respect them and am unwilling to accept them on whatever terms (3) I resent having to co-exist with them But for hate to exist, there has to be the feeling that the person is important on *some* level. Ditto for love. Indifference means the person isn't important at all.
sounds good... ogt me thinking though... those I hate are those taht are.were inportant to me... and damned if there are a shitload who i just don't care about.. there's the indiffrence.. yet that alone can be such an evil word
"This play I composed cannot be closed. I can't have that curtain fall. I am as God made me, I'd rather you hate me than not matter at all." -- Andy Prieboy
It's common for someone who has an investment in another person to
either love them or hate them - and it can swing very easily from one to
another - especially depending on how much in acceptance one is of the
person one has an investment in.
maybe it is like a histlry teacher I once had's theory on the political spectrum--- he figured that after you got past a certian point on either side (right being conservitive and left being liberal), things sort of bent around andwound up being equal.... pure fasicisim and comunision in practice don't look all that diffe3rent... maybe emotions are like that-- if youfeel fanatically about another indiviual, no matter which, it takes teh same energy, and gives you the same emotional stress... who knows....er, up there, it should be "communisim"... whoops.
I often type 3 for r, myself. Wonder why.
<font ponders the symbolism> :-)
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