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I was recently involved ina discussion of the origins of the codeword "Friends of Dorothy", and while I had heard it used often I was never really clear on the subtleties. The reference was to a Manahatten doyenne by the name of Dorothy who was an editor for a well known magazine. She was the source of much information about the social calendar in the homosexual community and people came to use her name in looking for information about the big parties happening while they were in town. Eventually, the code spread beyond New York through the mistaken assumption that "Dorothy" referred to the Judy Garland character in the Wizard of Oz. (Garland has long had a following in the gay community.) Anyone else know any other details? Anyone familiar with its current interpretation?
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I do recall that the Stonewall riots of 1969 came about as the gay community was honoring the memory of Judy Garland, who died several days before the aforementioned incidents.
Hmm...I've never heard much (read "at all") of any of this. But I suppose I'm not as up on culture and history and whatnot as I should be...
I discovered that Dorothy's last name was Dean so maybe I'll do a web search for more information about here. One of my questions is does "Friend of Dorothy" refer only to homosexuals or also to hangers-on in Gay society? Presumably it once meant anyone who traveled in those circles in Manhatten, but has it become more restricted?
it pretty much refers only to gays. a more recent and more inclusive term is "family," which refers to anyone in the l/g/sometimes bi community (i have personal reasons for disliking that term, though). haven't heard "friends of dorothy" in a long, long time.
Is there an analogous phrase in the lesbian community?
what is analogous? i might be able to help...but i'm kinda dumb when it comes to big words
"analogous" means similar. not one that i'm aware of, mta, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. it used to be that longterm lesbian relationships were referred to as "boston marriages," but i haven't had time yet to track down the etymology of the term.
Hmm, that's interesting -- Boston Marriage, eh? I love language! It does so many cool tricks. <grin> Thanks Void.
*boston* marages? Does this say anything about the city? (even if out of date?)<just curious>
(Maybe some sort of especially lenient common-law marriage law?)
dunno. since my computer committed suicide, i haven't even been able to use lynx to do any web-searching, and my time is so crunched that going to the library is nigh impossible.
<stay tuned folks, this aint over yet>
Druid, we have extra computers that you can have cheap, old PCs.
are there enough to share? <grin>
There is a glut of old PCs around, all of which can be used for accessing grex. Our offer was to put together a computer, monitor, keyboard, modem and communications software for $36, the money to go to grex. If you want more than the real basics, we can pick it up for you at Kiwanis, you pay.
thanks for the offer, keesan, but i'm working on building my own computer. besides, i still need to call you about that bike. :)
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