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Grex Femme Item 30: Can Epesiotomies be Avoided?
Entered by simcha on Tue Dec 27 13:17:34 UTC 1994:

Does anyone know much about avoiding epesiotomies?  I've had 3 kids
so far, and really don't want a 4th epesiotomy.  My doctor is really 
nice and I trust his medical competence, but he's around 60, and I think
this is one issue I've got to push on my own.

Can I avoid a 4th one?  what can I read to get more information? help!

11 responses total.



#1 of 11 by mta on Tue Dec 27 19:04:42 1994:

Episiotomies can *usually* be avoided if you begin preparation soon
enough.  The idea is to increase the elsticity of the perinium through
moisture, stretching, and increased blood circulation.  It depends in part,
of course, on the skill of the doctor who did the first 3 incisions, too.
If you have a great deal of heavy scarring, it probably won't be possible
to loosen the scar tissue up sufficiently.

The steps:

        1) a couple times a day, massage your perinium with oil,
           either vitamin E or vegetable.  Use your fingers to
           stretch the tissue out and down.  (You might find it's
           a great deal easier for your hu
           manage that one; I did.)  Pulljust until you feel
           some stretching, but well before it hurts.

        2) spend some time every day with no panties.  Air circulation
           with help make the perinial tissue healthier.

        3) practice squatting as low as you can.  The stretch will help
           increase the blood flow to the area.  It helps if you can start this
           one        early in pregnancy to minimize the strain on your joints,
           but
        if its too late for that and your knees just won't take deep
           knee bends, try sitting in a lotus position and bending forward as
           far as possible.

And good luck with your Dr.  He may actually be the bighurdle you have to
jump.  Since the exercises can only help. and the size of the child and the
speed of the delivery also play a role you'll have to trust his judgement,
which may be more conservative than you'd prefer.

You may want to consider having a midwife or duoala in attendance, too.


#2 of 11 by roz on Wed Dec 28 12:37:43 1994:

And, if you end up having an episiotomy, don't forget that it's a lot less
painful and inconvenient than torn tissue.  Trust me.


#3 of 11 by simcha on Wed Dec 28 14:46:55 1994:

I'm not big on company or distractions in labor, my husband is enough--
he knows when to reassure and when to sit down and shut up.
A midwife is not practical--I'm high risk:  I get diabetes during 
pregnancy (gestational diabetes), which ends with delivery but in 
the meanwhile there is risk to me & baby.  I'm on insulin  shots
once I get along a bit into pregnancy, and for that reason, must be 
hooked up to an IV.  ALso, if the babies aren't born early on  their
owon, they must be induced.  (I'm lucky--the 1st 2 were early, and #3
was induced so skillfully there was no pain for all but the last hour!)

My 1st 2 epesiotomies were done by a different doctor than the third.

My babies are not huge ins spite of the diabetes...alll 7.5 lbs or less.

My doctor has seen me through not only the diabetes, but also a 
miscarriage, and was so wonderful helping me with some nasty hospital 
procedures and staff so I'd be less miserable.

Given all tis, is it worth trying for an epesiotomy-free delivery?


#4 of 11 by denise on Wed Dec 28 23:34:42 1994:

Its definitely worth a try, though its important that you express
your concerns with  your Physician. And of course, the size of the baby,
how much scarring there already is, etc.  And Misti has severl good
suggestions about preparing the perinium.  Good luck!! When are you due?


#5 of 11 by simcha on Thu Dec 29 15:13:37 1994:

I've only just found out I'm pregnant so I haven't been to my dr. yet
By my estimate, the end of Aug. (yucch!)

Thanks!


#6 of 11 by roz on Sat Dec 31 04:20:23 1994:

<roz blows ice cold January air to simcha in August, sweating under
a maple tree and fanning herself>


#7 of 11 by gracel on Mon Jan 2 03:45:03 1995:

Work hard at lasting till the end of August (our maddening,
delightful child born on July 12, 1990 was due on August 24).
But about episiotomies: one friend of mine, having just had her
[I think 3rd]  child mentioned something about having a warm 
wet cloth over the perineum for much of the lying-down labor,
to relax the muscles in an attempt to avoid another episiotomy.
(It worked, or something did)  That might not be feasible in 
your high-risk situation, but you could ask your doctor what
he thinks.


#8 of 11 by simcha on Wed Jan 4 19:26:08 1995:

I rushed in to see my dr. yesterday because I was bleeding what
seemed like buckets.  Everything looked okay and so far I haven't
miscarried.

roz, I'll love that icy air, can you bottle it?

having hoped for a spring baby, we have a deposit on a beach place for the
middle two weeks of aug!!! somehow, I don't think they'll let me drive 500
miles  oops, miles, then!  assuming all goes fine gien the bleeding.  my formal
1st visit is next week.

grace, do I really WANT to last til the end of Aug???!
Thanks for the epesiotomy advice, too.


#9 of 11 by roz on Sun Jan 8 02:30:54 1995:

Keeping my fingers crossed about that bleeding.  Toes, too.


#10 of 11 by mta on Mon Jan 9 04:32:50 1995:

A midwife can be an advocate for you while your doctor handles the high
risk aspects of your labor, simcha, but if you don't tolerate company
well during labor it may not be worth it.  (I had a couple of midwives,
a dear friend, my older child and my husbad there fir my second child's
birth -- but then I cracked jokes right through transition, too.  I
get very high and social during labor.  Had a bit of a time convincing
anyone I was in second stage labor until Corey crowned.  ;)
I thought my huband was gonna kill me when I turned to him right after
the baby was bom, smiled beatifically (sp?) and said "That was fun. Can
we do it again?"  <laugh>
He never did have much of a sense of humour.


#11 of 11 by simcha on Mon Jan 9 15:54:46 1995:

Right after my 1st was born, mta, my husband said something similar.
After I had spent a very hungry 16+ hours in labor (and my water 
broke at the beginninng so the hospital had made it worse by confining
me to the bed for fear of nfection), my ever-lovin' husband turned 
to the dr. and said "Wow, one down -- eleven to go!"  I think I passed
out then.

I am lucky--the doctors  I have had, while medically conservative,
are very sensitive people, both men but bery sympathetic to women
they treat.  

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