WELCOME TO THE CONFERENCE ON ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LIVING.
WE'RE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEPLETION OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND  
POLLUTION GENERATED BY OVERDEPENDANCE ON THE AUTOMOBILE AND LIVING IN LARGE,
DETACHED HOUSES.

WE ADVOCATE USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WHICH USES 1/3rd AS MUCH OIL AS AN
AUTOMOBILE, AND LIVING IN APARTMENTS, TOWNHOUSES, AND CLUSTER HOUSING, RATHER
THAN HEATING THE GREAT OUT-OF-DOORS WITH THE FOUR EXPOSED WALLS AND ROOF OF A
DETACHED HOUSE.

BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO JUST RENT AND COLLECT A PILE OF RENT RECEIPTS, WE
ADVOCATE CO-OPS AND CONDOMINIUMS, AND COMMUNITY ORIENTED CO-OP CONDOS.  
SUCH ARRANGEMENTS ALSO CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNTIY AND COMMITMENT RATHER THAN
THE ALIENATION AND DETACHMENT FOUND IN PRESENT DAY AMERICA.  THIS CREATES A
SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY AND CONSCIENTIOUSNESS, ERGO BETTER KEEPERS OF MOTHER
EARTH.

CHICAGO TAXI WILLIE (chi1taxi)

23 responses total.

I am your co-host and fairwitness. I hardly ever use public transportation
and live in a medium detached house. I am, nevertheless, concerned about
global resource depletion, energy conservation, excessive and toxic
wastes, and alienation and detachment. However, I believe that it is
ible for our society to drastically improve on the concerns I note. I'd
like to both promulgate this philosophy, and learn from others.

re #0:
Bikes use far less oil than either cars or public transportation.

Bikes ar the best choice. Using a system of gears to use only your energy to
its best effeciency. What a concept.

I usually bike to work, use an electric lawnmower, and have solar panels on my
house.  What I hope to do next is start composting my yard waste.  Right now
its just sitting there in a pile in the back.  Anybody know of a good resource
guide to creating a compost heap that doesn't gas out the neighborhood?

Bikes are a wonderful means of transporting oneself from place to place.  
Personally, I prefer to walk when my destination is close at hand, mostly I
walk to see the beauty of the natural world around me.

Alan, I used to own a lawn business.  Whenever I bagged grass, I took the 
clippings with me and composted them.  My pile grew quite large, but after
it reached a certain size, it stopped growing.  Also, it never gave off
any strong odors.  Composting is almost as good as mulching and definitely
better than sending the clippings off to the dump.

By the way, I *love* biking and use it as my main source of local
transportation when the weather permits.  

hey all how are you?
i just joined this conference, and i had a question.
I'm a member of an local environmental organization and sometimes we
need help with public letter writing.  If anyone is interested in more info
(about the group, about our current project)  please ask!  
Otherwise i will drop the subject and just enjoy the conf>
Have a good day!
Val

Why don't you start an Item about the activities of your environmental
organization? There are others here: e.g., Michigan Natural Areas Council
(Item #20 in this cf), and the Michigan Karst Conservancy, via the command
lynx /u/mwarner/www/mkcnet.html

thanks rcurl.  i'll get some info together

It sounds funny to advocate people to live in condo if they cannot even afford
one of theirown. So, the overall solution to this problem is to share the
world wealth with all the people in the world. Maybe this is also an unreal
suggestion.

If by "unreal" you mean it will never happen, you are right. If everyone
shared the worlds wealth, everyone would be rural, poor, largely uneducated,
and in poor health. The world's wealth is admittedly unevenly distributed,
but there is still not much overall when divided among all people. 

There is a discussion in Item 27 of coop about a proposal to make Grex
conferences open to reading on the WEB without requiring readers to open
Grex accounts (called "anonymoous web reading of conferences"). An
argument in favor of doing this is that it could attract new participants
in conferencing after readers get a taste of what it is like. If you have
an opinion on this with regard to this conference, let us know: if you
have a opinion with regard to any other conference, you might start a
discussion of it there. In any case, you can read all sides of the issue
in coop item 27.

I would be in favor of making the enviroment conference anonymously readable
but not certain other confs such as poetry or sexuality.  To see my arguments
for this see coop item 27.

Oh gosh. No one has wrote anything since 1997. Maybe I write it in vain, just
for myself? Today we need to do something about the environment too. If anyone
is interested in the topic, please answer to this or email me at
rumcajs@grex.cyberspace.org

This happens in these topical conferences. Users start items in agora
on many topics that would fit perfectly into topical conferences. 
However I think a lot of users still have these less-used conferences
in the .cflists. It just requires starting them up again, which  you
have done. So, what would you like to discuss about enviro-friendly
living?

Pawel sounds Polish.  The Poles have a lot of interesting environmental
problems to fix - can you tell us about them?

i would like 2 know how rock jointing can inflence the developement of 
landforms in either granite or limestone

In granite, joints are breaks that contribute to block sliding and collapse,
while in limestone they can serve that purpose as well as being conduits
for water that can dissolve opening and develop a karst drainage system.
For example, most caves develop on joints (and weak bedding planes). 

hmmm...this conf isn't very active. Where have all the tree huggers gone?

Oh.  Sorry.  I was just out back planting trees, hugging trees and buying up
undeveloped land before developers buy it up.  An expensive passtime...

(Welcome back, Klaus....)

Hugs

Hi I'm new here.  I'm joining the Bastrop County Environmental Network which
is my local group.  http://bcen.org is their website.

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