anyone want to know how to hack?

well than e-mail me at cyberkiller_@hotmail.com!

108 responses total.

Gosh, I have this cold, and I would sure like to know how to *stop* hacking.

An elite hacker with an email account from hotmail?

(scott laughs scornfully)

Microsoft bought hotmail. An elite hacker with a net connection from
Microsoft? :-)

<Giggle>  We certainly get all sorts here, don't we?

It's kinda fun because I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it.

  I AM 3L33T.  GIV3 M3 WAR3Z, DUD3!

I suppose hotmail addresses are hard to trace ownership of :)

Yes a hacker who can't find the cyberpunk conference. Pssstttt wanna buy
some 20 year old Romanian viruses?  Th8 hot kid.

I like his use of "than" rather than "then".

I don't like your assumption that "his" is the right pronoun!
(But I'd bet about 100 to 1 that you're right :-).

I wasn't making an assumption.  I was making an educated quess.

  re #9:  didn't we have the pronoun/gender wars in the last Agora?  <yawn..>

why don't you geniuses get back to the original question, which is how to
hack?
I'd also like some info.
r

By "hack" do you mean gaining access to or on systems that you are
theoretically not supposed to have?

Basic question is, why bother?  If you can reliably do complex things
on computers correctly, then you are highly employable.  Not only will
people happily give you more access than you know what to do with, but they'll
pay you good money.

Because it is so easy to earn lots of money using technical knowledge to do
constructive things, it's not particularly surprising that the people who are
into "hacking" systems almost universally are either (1) totally lacking in
any real technical knowledge, or (2) otherwise so confused and disoriented
that they can't hold down real jobs.  Well, there are also a few marooned in
places like Russia and Romania who, due to the economic situations there, have
a hard time finding any constructive use for their skills.  That's why a
significant percentage of the very rare intelligent hackers come from places
like that.

Anyway, that's what people are joking about here.  It's very hard to take
seriously anyone who asks for help on how to commit a crime in a public
forum.

Well put. I'd venture that we have here on Grex many that could hack circles
around "cyberkiller", but that have more useful, interesting, enjoyable, or
remunerative things to do with their skills. I'm not among them, but even
the objective of "hacking" to harm or snoop in other systems, strikes me
as childish, puerile, uneducated, and lame.

My definitions:  Hacking - the ability to use tools & techniques to find out
things or "get things to work" when the standard methods to do this are
unavailable or ineffective.  Cracking - using Hacking for illegitimate,
harmful, etc. purposes, such as breaking into a computer system.

That's usually the way I use the term "hacking" also.

driving a cab, or dry coughing...

My dictionary does not give a computer related definition, but other
interesting meanings, in addition to a cough or a cab, are: literary drudge;
to make a word trite; to kick someone's shins (in football or basketball);
and of course, to chop or mangle. 

Now linked to the cyberpunk confernce, your conference of online culture,
counterculture, hacking, cracking, and hacky-sacking. :-)

What about hewing and slaying - do you discuss those too?

I'm beginning to suspect that cyberkiller just tossed this item out to
get attention, and hasn't been back. 

  And what if he has?  Item hijacking is a Grex Specialty (tm).

Nopers Dan. They only discusssuspension bondage and medeival torture. Tee hee!

Re #21: Yep, he said to email him if interested. (At hotmail.com,
of all places.)

Heh :)

In fact, qpqpa hasn't been back since 1/31, the date he first logged on.

I doubt this item generated much mail. Grex doesn't impress me as
a hacker hangout in the sense that qpqpa probably means.

Well, well....hacking is hacking...no doubt about that...baut an Hotmail man
who knows how to hack...yeah sure...

re # 28 Tautology is the cheapest currency of truth.

1: any one know a way into Archangel's website

Ask Apocalypse or Professor X. ;)

Hmmm, I liked the above definition of a 'hack' by Kevin A...hacking isn't just
with 'puters...it's with ANYTHING in life...yes, to make something do what
it was not advertised to do...that's my philosphy..."hack a coffee machine"...
why? maybe it's broken and u don't wanna pay the $$$ to get it repaired.. so
hack da bizatch...maybe i'll work even better this time around and dispense
a cigerette to go with yer coffee ;D
er, 2 lines up...i meant "maybe it'll work'

In response to message 13, I have "connections" with the hacking community.
Hackers are *highly* technical.  The only reason I know so much about unix
is becuase I was interested in hacking.  I transformed my win95 box into
a linux box becuase I was interested in hacking and I wanted to move foreward.
I'm glad I had an initial interest in hacking, becuase I like *nix much better
than win32 and I'd never know what it was unless I had looked into hacking...

Yeah, I'm still a teenage punk kid who's probly gonna get himself into lots
of trouble, but if you know what yer doing you won't harm *anything* and
you may even avoid getting caught.  Don't bash the hacking community, they
are the ones who shaped the internet (yes, Steve Jobs was a hacker, too).
Don't generalize hackers, it's discrimination.

OTOH, being a "hack" is a disparaging designation, e.g. a "hack writer".
While being a "crack" is a good thing, e.g. a "crack engineer".  Except
for a "crackpot"!  ;-)

 re #33:  working as a professional Unix system administrator for a number
 of years I can say that the majority of self-styled "hackers" I found trying
 to get onto our systems were *not* technically skilled people but for the
 most part had downloaded some security-testing software and an exploit kit
 from some guy's site and then went bouncing around the Internet in a semi-
 random fashion looking for hosts they could get into with their cookbook
 solutions -- *none* of the ones I encountered showed any real initiative..
 Certainly there are technically clever people out there, the "real" hackers
 if you will, but the majority of people who claim that name don't really
 know what they're doing and most don't even know why their tricks work..

the same could probably be said of system administrators.  (nothing personal
mcnally)  or, for that matter, people in any other field of endeavour.  most
are just following a pattern someone else established, and don't know why it
works, if it works at all.

re #35:  Hacking with programs, also called "hack in a box," can not be
considered hacking.  Hacking means a lot more about being technically skilled
then it means about breaking into systems.

  yes, it does, but most of the people who *think* they're way radical
  hack3r d00dz are not significantly removed from the "hack in a box"
  crowd..  I'd estimate the ratio is about 20:1  with sysadmins I think
  the ratio of paint-by-numbers folks to experienced artists is somewhat
  better, more like 5:1 or 4:1..

You got something wrong with paint by number artists?  I've made some awesome
fingers by that method =)

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