Do any of you read FringWare, 2600, Wired, MoNdO 2 0 0 0? This is the item
to discuss zines of cyber culture/practice, theory etc.

94 responses total.

i have always personally considered Mondo pretty lame, all though
i have only seen a couple issues, though.  I just picked up the June
issue of "Wired" in the Airport, and think it has a good chance at 
success.  Phrack, an info-zine in .txt form, is one of my favorites,
as is 2600.  I have never heard of "Fringware" before.

never heard of any of them.  enlighten us as to who, what, when, where,
why, and how, please.

I read Phrack and 2600 occasionally.  They are hacker/phone phreak
publications, discussing the inner workings of phone systems and
computer systems.

Hmm I can't believe anyone could be here and _not_ read at least one of those
zines... Mondo 2K has nice DTP, but pretty pics do not make a good read...
WiRED in the otherhand is an amazing experience, I'd recommend seeking it out
very much, if at least for one issue.  Phrack is nice, but too localised -
if you're not in the scene area then most of it is irrelevant.
2600 is a zine I'd love to get myhands on.... help anyone? (UK guy here)
But more than anything I want the FringeWAre address

= Requiem =

        Fringeware PO Box 49921 
        Austin, Texas
        USA
        78765

        Fringeware is the most interesting grass roots cyber zine IMHO.
The production isn't 1.8th as good as Wired but the content is decent.
Ofcourse I'm biased because there is ab=n ad for a hypercard stack I
was involved in in issue # 2.

I remember hearing there was a Fringe Ware web site where you
could look at their products.  Address anyone?

 = Requiem =

        You could try gophering to UofTexas at Austin.

Phrack is great!  It has really developed over time into a good
hacking/phreaking magazine.  If you haven't read it, get it.  It can really
come in handy, sometimes.

Has anyone read Interactive Age?

Millimeter?

I read somewhere that one of the above magazines told how to make free 
long-distance phone calls from a payphone.  Did anyone see this article?
I am very interested....

See item # 7 and check out phrack or 2600.  And please don't tell em
I sent you...

Thank you.  This was my first trip to this conference, and I hadn't 
gotten that far, yet.  Sorry.  

        Hey no problem have fun, and above all DON'T GET CAUGHT.  They
threw Fiber Optik in jail for a year for hacking and phreaking.

Mondo2k makes interesting reading occasionally.  There spot on pirate
radio and encryption was great.  Problem is I think they are trying
to look legitamate..while others such as 2600 dunt really care.

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FRINGEWARE REVIEW ISSUE NO. 11: CYBERLAW


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        re # 16 Are you involved with Fringeware Brenner???  If so look for
a full page ad for the Xen Distractionsim hypercard stack in issue # 3 (or
it might be # 2), I did the graphic design and publicity for said stack,
which is now alas defunct due to legal difficulties.

        I confirmed it's # 3.

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i would like to write a piece entitled,

Why I am Not A Lawyer,
by Marsha Clark

I am unthrilled with Fringeware, but perhaps I should give it another
try.  In the issue I read, they  not only altered a poem by our own
beloved Humdog, but they consistently spelled "guy" "gy", which I found
incredibly irritating.  Even in articles that were written by guest
writers -- must've used a search and replace because I'm sure that at
least one of the writers would never have spelled it that way.  

        They have p.c. grammer nazis at Fringeware, tsk, tsk, if they would
        only
free their minds their asses would follow.

We should get Jerod23 over here.

What on *earth* is wrong with "guy"?  Can someone explain this
bullshit to me?

Which bullshit, Dr. Doggie?
(smooch)

smooches mooches.

hooches pooches

the Theory appears to be that it is Masculinist...

but i always thought it was gender nuetral.
then one day some woman chewed me out for it.

Guy with no "u", you mean?  I consider "guy" to be gender neutral as well.
But in any case, this spelling of the word ("gy" <shudder>) was used in
referring to men.  Exclusively, I think.  I don't recall women being called
guys with either spelling.  Anyway, it just struck me as weird, 
pretentious, unnecessary, etc.  

ok.

so i went back to echo.
and they said to me, look you don't like what we do,
you go to  the feedback conference and say what you want.
so i said fine.
and i went.

and i gave them a rant about censoring discourse in cyberspace.
and the hostie from writers said, you are Bad Doggie humdog
and you must not say things like that.
and i said 
look.  the woman's ideas that i complained about betrayed
to me a thin mind.
i said it then, i shall say it now and i shall continue to
say it until she says something that makes me think otherwise.
and then the host said, well then i shall continue to send you
email.
and i said most fair hostie,
you do not seem to get that you may rain down dumb questions
upon me until hell freezes over and you will not change my mind.
and furthermore, you may save yourself time and trouble by not
mailing me any more of your baltimore-catechismic graduate of
an assertiveness training academy political correct inquestions
because they bore me.
so then the gen. conf. manager wrote to me and said
humdog if you do not shut your mouth,
we shall put you on read only restrictions for a week.
and so i said,
please close my account as i believe the first amendment
still applies for now in the US.

so endeth the adventures of humdog on echonyc.com

        Go humdog, work it grrrrrllll.  What is the e-mail address of these
lamers we should all give them a piece of our minds.

what a thought....



i believe that the Leader Of The Pack is one <horn>@echonyc.com

but i will see if i can get the address of the Baltimore Catechistimc
Inquisitor and her lackey

it's too damn bad we've forbidden hero worship here in accord-ion...
cause after your adventures on echonyc.com, humdog, you deserve it
(hero worship that is...)

Do people in the US try for thin minds as well as thin bodies?

So 'twould seem.

apparently yes in some parts of NYC 

(heroworshipping humdog)

I thought bunn said that was forbidden.

no.
humdog said it was forbidden.
and humdog is premenstrual...

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