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Grex Coop Item 369: Proposal: Decommission Grex.
Entered by cross on Thu Sep 22 16:29:57 UTC 2022:

I propose that we shut Grex down permanently.

Usage has declined significantly, and no one is
maintaining it.  There are other spaces online that
have grown to subsume its original mission.  The
non-profit behind it has been defunct for 7 years.

My suggestion is that we state publicly that it'll
be taken down, then give folks six months or so to
login and get whatever data they want to keep.  At
the end of that, we have an online party where we
shut it down for the last time.

We hang on to the domain names for another six
months or so, and then sell them; in accordance
with the bylaws, we donate the proceeds and whatever
money is in the PayPal account to charity.

Thoughts?

18 responses total.



#1 of 18 by ball on Fri Sep 23 01:20:02 2022:

    I would be sad to see it go but I understand that there
are costs associated with Grex on-line.  If we have to say
goodbye, a managed shutdown is a better fate than some other
places experience.


#2 of 18 by papa on Fri Sep 23 01:29:46 2022:

I agree with ball.


#3 of 18 by rak on Fri Sep 23 11:54:30 2022:

I too would be sad to see it go, but understand the costs
involved and agree with ball.


#4 of 18 by beaker on Sun Sep 25 00:29:53 2022:

Shut it down; everything ends eventually, even industrial civilization.


#5 of 18 by papa on Mon Sep 26 07:17:07 2022:

Just some thoughts:

I think the few of us who are still around understand that the
decommissioning of Grex is inevitable, but looking at the situation from
the opposite perspective, what would be necessary to evit the end of Grex?

  - More active users. Could that be achieved, how, and at what cost?

  - Time and money to maintain the server, network connection, etc. What do
the current maintainers think of decommissioning?


#6 of 18 by gelinas on Mon Sep 26 23:51:49 2022:

I think Dan is just about the last remaining active staff member. If he says
it's time to shut down . . .

I think six months to get the files you want is reasonable.

As for what to do with the money, I lean towards either Food Gatherers or the
American Red Cross. If the latter, I'd be inclined to say, "In memory of Rane
Curl."


#7 of 18 by cross on Tue Sep 27 20:51:05 2022:

I'd also add Jan Wolter to that.


#8 of 18 by cunnings on Sat Oct 15 06:21:39 2022:

I agree with the proposal. Grex had a great run but time has passed it by and
shutting it down gracefully seems appropriate.


#9 of 18 by eprom on Sun Oct 30 13:07:49 2022:

I agree with the proposal too.


#10 of 18 by krj on Fri Dec 2 18:20:56 2022:

For the procrastinators among us:  when will a hard date be set & 
announced?


#11 of 18 by other on Fri Dec 16 15:21:10 2022:

Sad to see it pass into history, but if it is time...


#12 of 18 by cross on Mon Dec 19 20:07:35 2022:

Sorry, I thought it had been announced.

Grex will be shut down for good on April 15, 2023.


#13 of 18 by papa on Mon Dec 19 23:11:19 2022:

Thanks for the announcement.

And thanks for keeping Grex going these last few years.


#14 of 18 by tod on Wed Jan 11 18:12:25 2023:

Pay your taxes and watch Grex die.  Nice.
  ;)


#15 of 18 by lar on Sun Jan 29 20:34:06 2023:

Isn't grex in Todd P's basement on a VM along with m-net? Has anyone spoken
with Tony Publiski? What's next, precious m-net?


#16 of 18 by papa on Mon Jan 30 03:50:13 2023:

I read the lore on the split between M-Net and Grex back in the day. Ironic
if they've ended up co-hosted on the same machine.


#17 of 18 by lar on Wed Feb 1 22:28:05 2023:

The last I heard they were on the same machine down in Tony's basement. he
was doing all the upkeep at that time. I formally protest the decommisioning
of grex..where else could I go for my granola?


#18 of 18 by null on Wed Feb 1 23:43:24 2023:

I found and logged into Grex in the mid-90s while I was still a teenager. I'm
sad to see it go and will always have a fond memory of it. Thank you to the
staff and people I have interacted with along the  way.

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